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		<title>By: Elizabeth Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/02/12/liberalism-is-always-being-surprised/comment-page-1/#comment-1192</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Alexander (no relation) succinctly states what I have been saying for years: That liberals are sheltered, overindulged people who are deluded by the naive assumption that there really is no evil in the world. And that if we are just really nice to  to all those poor/third world/minority people (who might also be violent, oppressive or just plain evil) then they will all be nice back. Part of this mindset comes from their own guilt at being spoiled and overindulged themselves. So when that doesn&#039;t work, then they make further excuses for the evil behavior based on pc victimology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Alexander (no relation) succinctly states what I have been saying for years: That liberals are sheltered, overindulged people who are deluded by the naive assumption that there really is no evil in the world. And that if we are just really nice to  to all those poor/third world/minority people (who might also be violent, oppressive or just plain evil) then they will all be nice back. Part of this mindset comes from their own guilt at being spoiled and overindulged themselves. So when that doesn&#8217;t work, then they make further excuses for the evil behavior based on pc victimology.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Atwood</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/02/12/liberalism-is-always-being-surprised/comment-page-1/#comment-551</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Atwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The nearest thing I&#039;ve seen to evil is  the &quot;culture of amorality&quot; that lets liberals slaughter tens of thousands.... oh yeah, make that tens of millions of (unborn) Americans for political and economic reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nearest thing I&#8217;ve seen to evil is  the &#8220;culture of amorality&#8221; that lets liberals slaughter tens of thousands&#8230;. oh yeah, make that tens of millions of (unborn) Americans for political and economic reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Godwin</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/02/12/liberalism-is-always-being-surprised/comment-page-1/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Godwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no such thing as intrinsic evil, and if there is then show me the gene.  Do you know what I think is the nearest thing to evil that I have seen in the last five years, the culture of amorality that lets neo-conservatives feel okay about slaughtering tens of thousands of people in Iraq for political and economic motives.

You people are fooling nobody except yourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no such thing as intrinsic evil, and if there is then show me the gene.  Do you know what I think is the nearest thing to evil that I have seen in the last five years, the culture of amorality that lets neo-conservatives feel okay about slaughtering tens of thousands of people in Iraq for political and economic motives.</p>
<p>You people are fooling nobody except yourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe G’s comments about Liberalism being in its essence replacing God with man. This makes the liberal a Marxist in the purest sense. What fascinates me is the rank and file liberal, the college student, actor and coffee house manager; those not connected with the more esoteric foundations of their ill-conceived ideology. 
These people tend to be a conflicted mass of political correctness intertwined with hyper-sensitivity. “On the one hand Islamic radicals are intolerant religious zealots, but on the other hand I can’t really criticize them because they’re not white. One the one hand resorting to violence to over throw freedom of speech in the form of Danish political cartoons seems wrong, but on the other hand they are poor and oppressed, besides the Danes are really, really white. On the one hand the Bush administration seems to place women and minorities in positions of power and responsibility, but on the other hand can articulate, intelligent, conservative self-made people of color still retain their minority status?”  
I’m sure these and other burning questions have them feverishly pouring over their charts on political correctness over a double Latte. Maybe Liberalism is merely the result of spoiled, over caffeinated people with too much time on their hands?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe G’s comments about Liberalism being in its essence replacing God with man. This makes the liberal a Marxist in the purest sense. What fascinates me is the rank and file liberal, the college student, actor and coffee house manager; those not connected with the more esoteric foundations of their ill-conceived ideology.<br />
These people tend to be a conflicted mass of political correctness intertwined with hyper-sensitivity. “On the one hand Islamic radicals are intolerant religious zealots, but on the other hand I can’t really criticize them because they’re not white. One the one hand resorting to violence to over throw freedom of speech in the form of Danish political cartoons seems wrong, but on the other hand they are poor and oppressed, besides the Danes are really, really white. On the one hand the Bush administration seems to place women and minorities in positions of power and responsibility, but on the other hand can articulate, intelligent, conservative self-made people of color still retain their minority status?”<br />
I’m sure these and other burning questions have them feverishly pouring over their charts on political correctness over a double Latte. Maybe Liberalism is merely the result of spoiled, over caffeinated people with too much time on their hands?</p>
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		<title>By: jacob mandelblum</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/02/12/liberalism-is-always-being-surprised/comment-page-1/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>jacob mandelblum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally in agreement with both the article and the comment on it
The best example we have of their idiocy is that Jimmy Who, who is actually making a living out of endorsing every dity pollig process in the world.
First he endorsed the Peruvian reelection of Fujimori, proven later on to be a hoax.
Then he endorsed the Chavez Venezuelan referendum, shamelessly tricked  electronically and now he endorses the Hamas election and not nly that, but he assures us that once in power, moderation will set in. 
Well, the same was said about Hitler and the rest is history........
You are right : liberals believe the fallacy of the perfectibility of the human species</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally in agreement with both the article and the comment on it<br />
The best example we have of their idiocy is that Jimmy Who, who is actually making a living out of endorsing every dity pollig process in the world.<br />
First he endorsed the Peruvian reelection of Fujimori, proven later on to be a hoax.<br />
Then he endorsed the Chavez Venezuelan referendum, shamelessly tricked  electronically and now he endorses the Hamas election and not nly that, but he assures us that once in power, moderation will set in.<br />
Well, the same was said about Hitler and the rest is history&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
You are right : liberals believe the fallacy of the perfectibility of the human species</p>
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		<title>By: G of Sedona</title>
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		<dc:creator>G of Sedona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 20:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Jamison:

Your observation on denying intrinsic evil is very perceptive.

Lawrence Auster observes, “. . . what started as a demand for basic civil rights has mutated into a (Leftist) demand to overturn the whole society, along with its traditions and norms, its standards and laws, its history and heroes.” Because liberalism, by definition, knows no limit, it necessarily over time approaches the absurd. For example, the movement to eliminate racial discrimination and religious intolerance have become a demand to eliminate ALL INTOLERANCE AND DISCRIMINATION, even intolerance of criminals and discrimination based on merit. As Auster further observes, “a society based on traditional morality judges the intrinsic moral qualities of men’s ACTIONS, and so is capable of SEEING and STOPPING REAL EVIL WHEN IT APPEARS. By contrast, . . . a people that defines the good as tolerance must inevitably END UP TOLERATING EVIL, even the evil of terrorist killers. Indeed, such a people must ULTIMATELY LOSE THE AUTHORITY to enforce any standards at all, since standards can be enforced only by a society’s dominant culture, and a dominant culture, as a dominant culture, is by definition ‘unequal’ and ‘exclusive’ and thus (by modern liberal / Leftist standards) illegitimate.”

My own personal observation is similar to yours regarding acknowledgement of God. Modern liberals reject God because they believe that human nature is changeable, and consequently, man can perfect himself and find his own salvation.

Modern liberals think they are original in their ideas, but there is nothing new about man being seduced by his own human pride, the original fall. It is also described in the story of the Tower of Babel.

Whether or not you believe these Biblical stories literally is of no consequence. They could be simple allegories to illustrate the point that human nature has not changed since the beginning. The modern liberal is simply re-hashing the same thing that was served many times before in many places and in many guises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Jamison:</p>
<p>Your observation on denying intrinsic evil is very perceptive.</p>
<p>Lawrence Auster observes, “. . . what started as a demand for basic civil rights has mutated into a (Leftist) demand to overturn the whole society, along with its traditions and norms, its standards and laws, its history and heroes.” Because liberalism, by definition, knows no limit, it necessarily over time approaches the absurd. For example, the movement to eliminate racial discrimination and religious intolerance have become a demand to eliminate ALL INTOLERANCE AND DISCRIMINATION, even intolerance of criminals and discrimination based on merit. As Auster further observes, “a society based on traditional morality judges the intrinsic moral qualities of men’s ACTIONS, and so is capable of SEEING and STOPPING REAL EVIL WHEN IT APPEARS. By contrast, . . . a people that defines the good as tolerance must inevitably END UP TOLERATING EVIL, even the evil of terrorist killers. Indeed, such a people must ULTIMATELY LOSE THE AUTHORITY to enforce any standards at all, since standards can be enforced only by a society’s dominant culture, and a dominant culture, as a dominant culture, is by definition ‘unequal’ and ‘exclusive’ and thus (by modern liberal / Leftist standards) illegitimate.”</p>
<p>My own personal observation is similar to yours regarding acknowledgement of God. Modern liberals reject God because they believe that human nature is changeable, and consequently, man can perfect himself and find his own salvation.</p>
<p>Modern liberals think they are original in their ideas, but there is nothing new about man being seduced by his own human pride, the original fall. It is also described in the story of the Tower of Babel.</p>
<p>Whether or not you believe these Biblical stories literally is of no consequence. They could be simple allegories to illustrate the point that human nature has not changed since the beginning. The modern liberal is simply re-hashing the same thing that was served many times before in many places and in many guises.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Jamison</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/02/12/liberalism-is-always-being-surprised/comment-page-1/#comment-361</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Jamison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sir:
Your statements are true and very well stated.  The presuppositions of liberal thought lead ineluctiblly to the illogical conclusions you so eloquently exposed.  I am still interested in explication of the roots of liberalism, the philosophical foundations of such irrational lines of reasoning.  I have been led to conclude it lies along the lines of the necessity of denying intrinsic evil because, to acknowledge it, inevitably mandates acknowledgement of God.  The latter is, appropriately, more terrifying then the other fears they deny but may encounter in this world.  Hence, &quot;their minds are darkened&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sir:<br />
Your statements are true and very well stated.  The presuppositions of liberal thought lead ineluctiblly to the illogical conclusions you so eloquently exposed.  I am still interested in explication of the roots of liberalism, the philosophical foundations of such irrational lines of reasoning.  I have been led to conclude it lies along the lines of the necessity of denying intrinsic evil because, to acknowledge it, inevitably mandates acknowledgement of God.  The latter is, appropriately, more terrifying then the other fears they deny but may encounter in this world.  Hence, &#8220;their minds are darkened&#8221;.</p>
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