Worker Bees

If a child is not created at conception, then when does it come into existence?

The National Center for Men have finally gone and done it. For over a decade, they have been looking for a test case to overthrow the child support laws in every one of the 50 states. Now they think they have found it.

A man who was deceived by his girlfriend conceived a blob of tissue/fetus/child (depending on your point of view) and is now being compelled to pay child support. He’s arguing compulsory child support violates the equal protection clause. If you want to see the strength of the case, consider the argument:

Pro-life: “Is the choice to have sex a choice to have a child?”
Feminist: “No”
Pro-life: “No child exists at conception, right?”
Feminist: “Of course not.”
Pro-life:”When would you say that a child clearly exists?”
Feminist: [the answer here doesn't matter. Agree to use whatever time limit they choose].
Pro-life: “A woman may have an abortion for whatever reason she chooses, correct?”
Feminist: “Of course.”
Pro-life: “Men and women have equal rights?”
Feminist: “As long as abortion is legal, yes.”
Pro-life: “Alright. Who creates children?”
Feminist: “What do you mean?”
Pro-life: “Well, since we know there is no child at conception, the child must be created at some point X, well after conception. Now, the man only has sex. He’s not there after conception (indeed, conception may take place hours after the sexual act). It is only at point X that a child exists. Therefore, the woman alone creates the child through the act of gestation. Legal abortion asserts a new thing: sex doesn’t create children, gestation creates children. Sex merely creates a fertilized egg, a tissue mass.

Men don’t get pregnant. Men don’t create children. Men simply provide sperm. They provide one-half of a set of blueprints. The woman provides not only the other half, but the building site, the construction materials, she oversees the project, and she can destroy the whole thing anytime she wants. The man has got nothing to do with it. The existence of a child is not his responsibility — he has no choice, he’s done nothing to create responsibility except have sex, and we already know that the decision to have sex is not a decision to have children, nor does it create a child.

So, the idea of compelling child support from the man is really a carry-over from the patriarchy, when men were thought to share responsibility for the existence of a child. Now that legal abortion has liberated us from those archaic ideas, we should throw away the last remnants of the old oppression.

If the woman wants to have a child, fine. Why should the man pay to support her lifestyle, her choice? If she can have an abortion for whatever reason she wants, then she is having a child for whatever reason she wants. In neither case does it have anything to do with the man.

Genetics has nothing to do with the problem. Is the man’s twin brother equally responsible for his child? Are you legally responsible for supporting your parents? No, to both. It is equally nonsense to say that the act of impregnation creates responsibility — if the woman has no responsibility towards a child who isn’t there, how much less does the man? Indeed, according to the law, an anonymous sperm donor can never be held for child support, even if he desires to be considered the child’s father.

What’s the difference between an anonymous sperm donor and one who’s name you happen to know? The second just has a slightly more personal form of delivery. In both cases, the child exists only because the woman decides to allow it to exist. You might argue that the child wouldn’t exist without him, but neither would a Ford pickup truck exist without raw materials from US Steel. Yet we don’t hold US Steel responsible for the existence of the pickup truck — we hold responsible the one who built it.

Consider a woman who has identical twin boys. One grows up to be a carpenter, the other grows up to be an in vitro fertilization (IVF) specialist. The carpenter gets married, and he and his wife decide to have a child by IVF. The carpenter asks his brother to do the honors, and his brother readily agrees. The carpenter donates his sperm, the doctor extracts an egg from the wife, fertilizes it with sperm, and implants it in the wife’s womb.

Who is the father?

After all, the doctor used sperm genetically indistinguishable from his own and impregnated the carpenter’s wife. Doesn’t that make him the father? Is he responsible for child support? If not, then why is the carpenter?

If you really believe that men don’t have a right to a voice simply because they don’t get pregnant, then you darn well ought to support the demolition of existing child support laws. After all, as you say, this child-creation business has nothing to do with men.

The National Center for Men is using precisely this logic to attempt to weaken and destroy existing child support laws. The group is adamantly pro-choice. They point out that women have the right to force men to support a child even though the choice to create the child is clearly not their legal responsibility. In fact, a woman can rape a man, conceive a child, carry it to term, and then force the victim of the rape to pay child support. This is true even if the rape victim is a minor — a child himself. Such a boy pays for the crimes of another with his life’s earnings. This last is not legal fiction — it has actually happened. A 12 year-old boy was statutorally raped, yet the court found he had a duty to support the child his rapist bore. (STATE of Kansas, ex rel., Colleen HERMESMANN, Appellee, v. Shane SEYER, a minor, and Dan and Mary Seyer, his parents, Appellants. No. 67,978. Supreme Court of Kansas. March 5, 1993).

Examining the popular reaction

Now, Mona Charen and other conservative commentators are trembling with rage over this argument. They think it will somehow shock the feminists. It won’t. The National Center for Men is finally doing what NOW and NARAL have been in favor of for years.

Karen DeCrow, former president of NOW, argues vociferously that men should not pay child support. She is not alone; a great many “feminists” agree that compulsory child support should be abolished.

We know that impoverished households are disproportionately led by single mothers. Clearly, the removal of child support laws would increase the child poverty problem. But that’s ok. Every time another mother drops below the poverty line, the feminists have another stick to beat stay-at-home moms with.

Pro-abortion feminists (there’s a contradiction in terms) aren’t interested in helping women, rather, they are interested in re-making all women into their own image. They are interested in justifying their own life’s work. Every woman should be like them, every woman should become a sterile corporate worker bee. Human beings are a glut on the planet, and anything which reduces the human population is good. Removing subsidies for child production — and that’s what compulsory child support is, in their view — is a good thing.

Personal responsibility for children is precisely what they have opposed for years. If children must be raised, then do it in a commune, a kibbutz, a village, so that no one gets too attached. We don’t want anyone enjoying children. They might have more.

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9 comments to Worker Bees

  • Brenda

    Excellent op-ed. I never really thought of child support and conception in this way.
    Will be forwarding the link to your article to all I know. Keep up the great writing.

  • Anthony Gaddini

    Great article!

  • Lou P

    Terrific article! I can’t wait to forward to one and all.
    Thanks

  • sue

    Great article but I’d like to be clear on one point that was made. The mother orders the demolition, but the doctor provides the wrecking ball. And if you’re lucky enough to live in Canada you may build and destroy as often as you like, and everyone else picks up the tab. I think it has a lot of our kids confused though. When they walk into a school and create their own demolition site, they go to jail. Could we get pro-choice mothers in here please and explain to these kids why life is so precious. I’m sorry, but there isn’t a sane argument out there when it comes to abortion. Feminists know it’s murder, doctors know it’s murder, society as a whole knows it’s murder, the problem is they just don’t care. How do you win that argument?

  • great article. since our planet is vastly overpopulated and there are so many out there who love babies so much, let’s stop all baby production immediately and take care of all of them who are already here. let’s treat each and every one of them like the treasure they are. we will have to build multiple sperm-containing buildings around the world, then mandatorily give each 11 year old boy a vasectomy, saving his sperm for later in life when he could prove that he and his partner can raise the wanted child. every child is wanted. men lose a little choice over what happens to their bodies but problem solved!

  • Good idea, Logan, I mean loveloki.

    It’s arguments like the one the National Center for Kooky Men offer that will change the national understanding of conception and abortion. It’s about time that a wickedly wierd counter to the ACLU came out.

  • St. John

    I think this idea could use a little balance. Child support laws need to be rewritten in light of divorce on demand and the ease of woman to do whatever they choose with their bodies. It’s always a man’s responsibility to support his child enforced by ridiculous laws and collections agencies, YET YET YET there is not the same enforcement when woman use children to punish the man or as a bargoning chip. Support and access should be tied together and efforts to make men and woman equal in their childs life (which they are not;thank you feminists) should be encouraged and supported.

    Abortion is a choice mostly by woman, yet when their is birth men (not living with the woman) are given only the right to ‘visit’ occasionally and ‘pay for the child’. Wouldn’t it be nice if men were encouraged to be Fathers by being given equality and woman realizing the importance of both parents.

    Woman that USE children , wag the child in a man’s face while his heart breaks inside, gov. enforcement of child support on men who are married with children, with no respect for the wife and children he is now caring for, are thorns that antagonize and demoralize men and have the oppostite effect of doing any good at all.

  • curtis walston

    With rights come responsibility. With responsibility, come rights. We (by that I mean men) have to make a choice, do we want our rights as fathers, and the responsibilities that come with it? Or do we want to throw both of those away?

    I am one who wants both. If I have kids, I want to be involved in thier lives, and I am willing to accept hte responsibilites necessary to be there for them. But I can see the point that if by default for some odd reason a man cannot be allowed, or even doesn’t want to assume the responsibilities of fatherhood, he should be allowed to waive his rights and not be involved with either the mother or the child period.

    Either way, the current situation is untenable and ludicrous. The current system saddles men with an inordinant amount of responsibilities, and yet none of the rights that should be provided.

  • I think a lot of people forget that marriage and family actually works for the betterment of all. Don’t have sex outside of a committed marriage. It’s so simple. It’s scoffed at, but a huge amount of heartache would be eliminated if people took basic morality 101. The next major obvious point that people forget is that children are a blessing and they need to be treasured with joy. For so long burden and unwanted are feminist terms for our offspring. Abortion would not be seen as necessary if people remember how to love and welcome Children and enjoy the process of training a moral, responsible generation. Anything else is shortchanging men and women.

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