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		<title>By: seabel</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/03/29/creeping-egalitarianism/comment-page-1/#comment-35848</link>
		<dc:creator>seabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you vote? Have you ever used birth control? Do you wear pants (instead of a skirt/dress)? Have you been to college? If you answered yes to any of these questions then you are standing on the back of a woman who fought and suffered for you to have this right, you could call it &quot;forced egalitarianism&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you vote? Have you ever used birth control? Do you wear pants (instead of a skirt/dress)? Have you been to college? If you answered yes to any of these questions then you are standing on the back of a woman who fought and suffered for you to have this right, you could call it &#8220;forced egalitarianism&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: euprattin</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/03/29/creeping-egalitarianism/comment-page-1/#comment-32481</link>
		<dc:creator>euprattin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 08:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I thought this was going to be a polemic on the imposotion of liberalism in the middle east.  Instead I found fascist rhetoric and open intolerance.  What happened to the remnents of  libertarianism and Burkean conservatism? What if Christians were in the minority? Would you still advocate religious intolerance? 

&quot;Normal people do not know that anything is possiblie...&quot; -Adorned the first page of Arendt&#039;s &quot;Totalitarianism&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I thought this was going to be a polemic on the imposotion of liberalism in the middle east.  Instead I found fascist rhetoric and open intolerance.  What happened to the remnents of  libertarianism and Burkean conservatism? What if Christians were in the minority? Would you still advocate religious intolerance? </p>
<p>&#8220;Normal people do not know that anything is possiblie&#8230;&#8221; -Adorned the first page of Arendt&#8217;s &#8220;Totalitarianism&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: WBJones</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/03/29/creeping-egalitarianism/comment-page-1/#comment-1646</link>
		<dc:creator>WBJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Rachel,

I really liked this one. When will they understand? I went to a legal fraternity
convention last year and all they were trying to pass were anti-anti-discrimination
amendments to the organization&#039;s Constitution, combining pro-homosexuality
amendments attached to &quot;diversity&quot; language. They got sooo mad when I brought
up the fact the organization was founded on Christian and Natural Law ideals.
- Great piece this one..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Rachel,</p>
<p>I really liked this one. When will they understand? I went to a legal fraternity<br />
convention last year and all they were trying to pass were anti-anti-discrimination<br />
amendments to the organization&#8217;s Constitution, combining pro-homosexuality<br />
amendments attached to &#8220;diversity&#8221; language. They got sooo mad when I brought<br />
up the fact the organization was founded on Christian and Natural Law ideals.<br />
- Great piece this one..</p>
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		<title>By: parsimonious mom</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/03/29/creeping-egalitarianism/comment-page-1/#comment-1477</link>
		<dc:creator>parsimonious mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 21:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kids do not understand communism or marriage these days.  Communism is a feel good song Imagine..  Marriage is one of a half dozen options.  I&#039;m just sorting out what communism is all about by reading a David Horowitz book.  I gather it is the idea that there is a beautiful rainbow social order just around the riverbend.  The problem is that people justify mass-murder in order to follow that dream.  As For Marriage, my husbaand and I model it for dozens of kids from broken homes who do not have a clue of the advantage of an intact family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids do not understand communism or marriage these days.  Communism is a feel good song Imagine..  Marriage is one of a half dozen options.  I&#8217;m just sorting out what communism is all about by reading a David Horowitz book.  I gather it is the idea that there is a beautiful rainbow social order just around the riverbend.  The problem is that people justify mass-murder in order to follow that dream.  As For Marriage, my husbaand and I model it for dozens of kids from broken homes who do not have a clue of the advantage of an intact family.</p>
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		<title>By: G of Sedona</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/03/29/creeping-egalitarianism/comment-page-1/#comment-1408</link>
		<dc:creator>G of Sedona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 16:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...the biggest lesson learned in the 20th century was that communism does not work.&quot;

Which is the biggest lesson learned in the 20th century is a toss-up between communism not working and appeasement not working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;the biggest lesson learned in the 20th century was that communism does not work.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is the biggest lesson learned in the 20th century is a toss-up between communism not working and appeasement not working.</p>
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		<title>By: honker</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/03/29/creeping-egalitarianism/comment-page-1/#comment-1388</link>
		<dc:creator>honker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very Good Point Red.  The Civil War is such a tragedy to debate.  Are the constitional issues of today more valueable than the possibility of the Confederacy allowing slavery for even one more day?  No matter what side you take, your wrong.  Far too many people believe the Civil War was strictly about slavery.  Very few realize what it did to empower the federal government and limit states&#039; rights, once the hallmark of this country.  A debate for another day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very Good Point Red.  The Civil War is such a tragedy to debate.  Are the constitional issues of today more valueable than the possibility of the Confederacy allowing slavery for even one more day?  No matter what side you take, your wrong.  Far too many people believe the Civil War was strictly about slavery.  Very few realize what it did to empower the federal government and limit states&#8217; rights, once the hallmark of this country.  A debate for another day.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Atwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Atwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Atwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Atwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Phillips, what else would you propose? Feudalism or some such thing? Anyway, regarding the multi-culturalism  and diversity stuff... At what point did we shift focus and begin to celebrate difference rather than the fact that we are united inspite of difference? That groups people by racial and ethnic stereotypes just as much as racism, though it&#039;s not as negative. I find it a bit disturbing. Where I go to college, the office of international programs employs a bunch of socialist weasels with Che Guevara crap all over their walls. These people think we should go abroad to &quot;experience another culture,&quot; yet they don&#039;t think we should have one of our own. The French, Mexicans, Arabs, etc. should have a strong and well defined culture, but not us. The double standard is appalling. The article said it best when it said that as societies become more prosperous, they have less important things to complain about. Many of the movements seen in our country today are nothing but a way for middle and upper class young white beneficiaries of our system to get together and fantacize that they are oppressed. Ironically, they think we are the ones who do most of the oppressing abroad, when the socialists/communists they like are the champions of murder, torture, etc. So Mrs. Alexander, if you want the theory of a college student as to why his peers keep bashing their heads into the wall pushing failed ideas, I&#039;d sum it up as an excuse to piss and moan about the imagined injustices in their relatively luxurious world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Phillips, what else would you propose? Feudalism or some such thing? Anyway, regarding the multi-culturalism  and diversity stuff&#8230; At what point did we shift focus and begin to celebrate difference rather than the fact that we are united inspite of difference? That groups people by racial and ethnic stereotypes just as much as racism, though it&#8217;s not as negative. I find it a bit disturbing. Where I go to college, the office of international programs employs a bunch of socialist weasels with Che Guevara crap all over their walls. These people think we should go abroad to &#8220;experience another culture,&#8221; yet they don&#8217;t think we should have one of our own. The French, Mexicans, Arabs, etc. should have a strong and well defined culture, but not us. The double standard is appalling. The article said it best when it said that as societies become more prosperous, they have less important things to complain about. Many of the movements seen in our country today are nothing but a way for middle and upper class young white beneficiaries of our system to get together and fantacize that they are oppressed. Ironically, they think we are the ones who do most of the oppressing abroad, when the socialists/communists they like are the champions of murder, torture, etc. So Mrs. Alexander, if you want the theory of a college student as to why his peers keep bashing their heads into the wall pushing failed ideas, I&#8217;d sum it up as an excuse to piss and moan about the imagined injustices in their relatively luxurious world.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Perhaps the biggest lesson learned in the 20th century was that communism does not work. Forced equality is an oxymoron. As Francis Fukuyama wrote in &quot;The End of History and the Last Man,&quot; the fall of the Soviet Union in 1989 brought about the realization that liberal democracy had triumphed as the optimal form of government for civilization. Communism did not work and could not work, because human nature is inherently flawed.&quot;

Well it is certainly true that human nature is flawed. That is an article of faith among American conservatives and their historical ancestors, and it is based on the Christian concept of fallen man. But is not &quot;liberal democracy&quot; also guilty as was Communism of failing to recognize this. That is one of the major problems we are facing today. Liberal democracy is liberal, and it is democratic. &quot;Optimal form of government?&quot; Balderdash!

Liberal democracy is just as much a product of the liberal Enlightenment thinking that animated the French Revolution as is Communism. Liberal democracy has always been and forever will be the enemy of tradition, natural order, particularity, and the Church. The societies may prosper economically, but they are destroyed from within. The citizens become rich and prosperous God-denying hedonists who despise tradition and worship progress.

It is a start to declare that forced equality will not work, and I congratulate you for doing so. But we must also recognize and declare that &quot;liberal democracy&quot; is not the &quot;optimal from of government for civilization.&quot; It is part of the problem.

(Note that America as originally founded, while unfortunately infected with a lot of liberal Enlightenment rhetoric, was not a liberal democracy, certainly not in the way that France became after their soon to follow Revolution. Under the Constitution, which is of course routinely ignored, it was a strictly limited federal republic. We certainly were not a liberal democracy under the Articles of Confederation which we should have stuck with, BTW. America did not become a modern style liberal democracy until after Lincoln invaded the Confederacy and remade the Constitution.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Perhaps the biggest lesson learned in the 20th century was that communism does not work. Forced equality is an oxymoron. As Francis Fukuyama wrote in &#8220;The End of History and the Last Man,&#8221; the fall of the Soviet Union in 1989 brought about the realization that liberal democracy had triumphed as the optimal form of government for civilization. Communism did not work and could not work, because human nature is inherently flawed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well it is certainly true that human nature is flawed. That is an article of faith among American conservatives and their historical ancestors, and it is based on the Christian concept of fallen man. But is not &#8220;liberal democracy&#8221; also guilty as was Communism of failing to recognize this. That is one of the major problems we are facing today. Liberal democracy is liberal, and it is democratic. &#8220;Optimal form of government?&#8221; Balderdash!</p>
<p>Liberal democracy is just as much a product of the liberal Enlightenment thinking that animated the French Revolution as is Communism. Liberal democracy has always been and forever will be the enemy of tradition, natural order, particularity, and the Church. The societies may prosper economically, but they are destroyed from within. The citizens become rich and prosperous God-denying hedonists who despise tradition and worship progress.</p>
<p>It is a start to declare that forced equality will not work, and I congratulate you for doing so. But we must also recognize and declare that &#8220;liberal democracy&#8221; is not the &#8220;optimal from of government for civilization.&#8221; It is part of the problem.</p>
<p>(Note that America as originally founded, while unfortunately infected with a lot of liberal Enlightenment rhetoric, was not a liberal democracy, certainly not in the way that France became after their soon to follow Revolution. Under the Constitution, which is of course routinely ignored, it was a strictly limited federal republic. We certainly were not a liberal democracy under the Articles of Confederation which we should have stuck with, BTW. America did not become a modern style liberal democracy until after Lincoln invaded the Confederacy and remade the Constitution.)</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Davidson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcolm Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating- you metion the word Common Sense. It seems to me that for 
some reason there is little if any Common Sense left.  That stupid yellow and
white sticker I see on some cars from time to time- the one that wants to force 
equality. Nice thought, though no Common Sense behind the thought. In any
society one cannot force another to like, love, or even care about another. It 
happens or it does not. No amount of regulation is going to make two people equal.
What confuses me, is that on both the right and left, particularily the left, there are programs that have been tried, and tried again that do not work, yet they are 
constantly being recycled. To me that is insane, for you cannot do the same thing
over and over and expect a completely different result. A great article. Keep up the 
good work.  

Malcolm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating- you metion the word Common Sense. It seems to me that for<br />
some reason there is little if any Common Sense left.  That stupid yellow and<br />
white sticker I see on some cars from time to time- the one that wants to force<br />
equality. Nice thought, though no Common Sense behind the thought. In any<br />
society one cannot force another to like, love, or even care about another. It<br />
happens or it does not. No amount of regulation is going to make two people equal.<br />
What confuses me, is that on both the right and left, particularily the left, there are programs that have been tried, and tried again that do not work, yet they are<br />
constantly being recycled. To me that is insane, for you cannot do the same thing<br />
over and over and expect a completely different result. A great article. Keep up the<br />
good work.  </p>
<p>Malcolm</p>
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