Norman Ornstein has proposed the adoption of a mandatory voting system for congressional and presidential elections.
In a recent op-ed entitled "Vote or Else" appearing in the New York Times, Norman Ornstein, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, proposed the adoption of a mandatory voting system for congressional and presidential elections. The rational for this proposal was based upon a perceived problem and a solution used elsewhere.
The Problem: ". . . participation rates of about 10 percent or less of the eligible electorate in many primaries to 35 percent or so in midterm general elections to 50 percent or 60 percent in presidential contests, the name of the game for parties is turnout – and the key to success is turning out one's ideological base. Whichever party does a better job getting its base to the polls reaps the rewards of majority status.
"And what's the best way to get your base to show up at the polls? Focus on divisive issues that underscore the differences between the parties."
The Solution: "Here's a possible solution: mandatory voting. A number of countries, including Singapore, Cyprus, Austria and Belgium, have forms of mandatory voting. But Australia, a sprawling polity like ours, provides perhaps the best example of why it bears consideration for the United States." According to this resident scholar of a most prestigious conservative policy think tank, the answer is getting the vote up to 80-95% of the eligible electorate as is the case in Australia by threatening those who don't vote with increasingly severe fines for each subsequent infraction.
The Rationale: "If there were mandatory voting in America, there's a good chance that the ensuing reduction in extremist discourse would lead to genuine legislative progress. These days, valuable Congressional time is spent on frivolous or narrow issues (flag burning, same-sex marriage) that are intended only to spur on the party bases and ideological extremes."
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Aside from the fact that there is absolutely no evidence that Australia or any of the other mandatory voting countries have less (or more) political divisiveness, and if they do have less, that this is a result of penalizing the electorate's choice not to vote, the silliness of this proposal is of course its seriousness. But before we address the silliness of its seriousness at the conceptual level, we thought we might pause to examine its silliness at the empirical "scientific" level.
An examination of all of the so-called mandatory voting countries does not support the notion that political systems with credible representative government use this penalty system or that if they do it leads to a more reasoned political discourse. And, among the bona fide representative political systems that do have some form of mandatory voting, strict enforcement is the exception not the rule. Australia is one of those exceptions to be sure. But, in Australia the record does not suggest the system successfully moves political discourse and representative government in any positive directions. For example, 20% of the electorate avoids the penalties by not registering to vote at all because the law only applies to those who register. Of the 80% who register, five percent waste their votes by "spoiling" the ballot (presumably by defacing it in some fashion or just not marking anything). Beyond this, you have what has become known as the "donkey" (i.e., mindless) votes named appropriately after the "pin the tale on the donkey" game. And, you have what one might label the "robot" votes of those voters who, having been forced to come vote, simply vote party line. That such a system would eliminate political divisiveness at best appears as wishful and at worst just plain wrong-headed and wrong.
For example, the so called “ideological base” is, according to Ornstein, motivated by animus and zealotry. Fine. You have that in America and Australia. You also have a fairly large segment of non-committed voters of both parties that waffle. Those of the wafflers that come to vote without threats of fines arguably are small in number but vote because they have a reason to cast their vote one way or another. This exists in both countries. Following our scholar’s logic, that still leaves a large segment of moderate potential voters not sufficiently motivated to vote because they just don’t care enough or because they have been turned off to politics. Having been forced by threat of legal sanction to come out and waste a day voting, they still neither care about the issues nor have any interest to vote. They do so per force. So, either they are smart and don’t register at all, they “donkey” their votes, or they mindlessly vote along party lines. At best, all this means for our scholar’s thesis is that the ideological political divisiveness he decries will take place during the party registration drives and not during the election campaigns.
Moreover, according to many political scientists in Australia, the lack of political divisiveness during the election process is more a fact of religious and political apathy than mandatory voting. Thus, Dr. Marion Maddox, in her monograph entitled, "For God and Country: Religious Dynamics in Australian Federal Politics," produced for the Australian Parliamentary Fellows Program, wrote:
Modern Australia has been called 'the world's most secular society'. While that claim may be disputed (for example, by New Zealand), religion is seldom regarded as a particularly revealing or interesting dimension of Australian national life. Ecclesiastical statements on political issues gain a measure of public attention, but church attendances are in decline. The much-vaunted growth of immigrant and 'new' religions in fact takes up only a tiny percentage of the slack. Sectarianism, once a defining feature of the Australian party system, has faded.
So, too, if one believes the 'Tweedledum-and-Tweedledee' school, has political passion. Opinion polls show declining public faith in political processes, decreasing party identification among voters and high levels of ignorance and misinformation about political players and institutions. Victorian etiquette is no longer needed to quarantine once incendiary topics: religion and politics have become the things no one would bother to discuss at the dinner table. [Footnotes omitted.]
But this malaise, like in America, seems to grip the “middle.” For at the extremes, plenty of Australians are talking about the “fragmentation” that is taking place under John Howard, a man the Australians themselves liken to President Bush:
For Australia the war on terrorism contributes to the process of civic fragmentation that the Howard Government has fostered since coming to power in 1996. Civil society could perish in an atmosphere of fear and suspicion, where difference is treason (Muslims are all potential terrorists, homosexuals are enemies of the family, and anyone disagreeing with the government is routinely accused of being ‘un-Australian’); where trust in politicians is low; where people struggling with poverty, mental illness or the care of aged family members receive too little help; and where rates of depression and youth suicide continue to rise.
The Howard Government did not create these ills, but it can be argued that it intensified them and makes little effort to alleviate them.
Cusack, Carole M., “The future of Australian secularism: Religion, civil society and the American alliance,” Australian Review of Public Affairs (10 October 2005).
Sounds a lot like America from this side of the ocean.
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Now that we’ve understood the level of scholarship, at least empirically, with which we are dealing, we turn to the silliness of this proposal as a serious conceptual matter. It is serious because it is in fact the maturation of the “Great Idea” we have developed as a critique of modern political order: the science-democracy obversion. If science achieves certainty, not by any given theory or even by its experimental method but through its use of symbolic abstraction via mathematical physics in a world reduced to matter and method, then all else of man’s existence becomes an uncertainty and mere belief. Given that, democracy as method in search of a new political order replaces all of those old time religious and philosophical notions of providence, purpose, and telos, of virtue, faithfulness, and fidelity, of civic responsibility, patriotism, and peoplehood.
Democracy and the plebiscite recognize that all of political order is mere uncertain belief. Granting each man an equal voice reduces all to the lowest common denominator. Virtue and the Truth of Existence are now the tallying up of numbers, i.e., votes, in a methodological replacement for meaning. There is no wonder of course that our Founding Fathers rejected democracy and mob rule. I have written before and do so again here that our constitution as originally crafted was an architecture of political order to both embrace the sins of the Enlightenment and avoid its rawest dangers. Thus, the power of the people as a people rested with the smallest politically constituted bodies, the states and local governments; the federal government was significantly constrained by the first ten amendments. (This we know was undone by the post-Civil War 14th Amendment and the Supreme Court’s perversion of this poorly crafted amendment.) Further, national elections were not a popular vote, except in the weaker of the legislative houses. Senators, occupying the more august, deliberative, and important body, were elected by state legislatures. The president by an Electoral College system. And, of course, only white males voted. All but the electoral system choosing our president has been undone. The system of government radically altered. The power of representative government has moved from local and more intimate relationships where common religious and moral groundings worked well to forge a weltanschauung to distant anonymous ones where “pluralism” and “multiculturalism” rule. Democracy (and science) advocates will of course applaud these changes viscerally.
Now, what would happen if there were a serious move by enough people to challenge the very premise of the science-democracy obversion? An initiative or campaign that suggested by its Reasoned yet silent protest that Politics as Usual – a place where all of political order, national existence, and peoplehood amount to no more than mere beliefs in an ideological battleground of “beliefs” and “votes” — would no longer govern their lives as the proper venue of political participation. What would happen if a large segment of the conservative constituency said enough is enough. By participating in the ideological debates, we are acceding to the obversion. We refuse. Literally, “Don’t Vote, it only encourages them!”
One thing would most assuredly happen and another might. The sure thing is that conservatives, and especially secular conservatives, would either insult you for aiding and abetting “the liberal enemy” or dismiss you because your approach is not “strategic” or “tactical” (liberals, on the other hand, would not have a clue about what was going on). And, at least at some level, this latter criticism would be true. But that simply means that not everything in political order or in man’s existence is to gain ground on someone else. Sometimes, it is to do the proper or virtuous thing. In fact, the notion that all of political life is a contest between equally uncertain “ideas” is the deep meaning of the science = certainty / democracy = uncertainty obversion.
That does not mean that worlds cannot be moved with such an initiative and that it won’t turn out quite strategic. Imagine the impact of such a campaign embraced by mostly religious conservatives. The ground would shake; the earth, or at least our part of it, would metaphorically rotate its axis ninety degrees. But that is what happens when men participate with their soul and with a Reason that founded the West, a Reason which once co-existed with Revelation. What we now term reason, is nothing more than ratiocination or the crunching of numbers; the language of bees.
But, you note, the insults and dismissal is what I say would happen in the face of such a challenge to Politics as Usual. What, you ask, do I suggest might be the second response by conservatives to such a Null Vote Campaign?
How about a law that made such a gesture illegal? Ridiculous?






































There are two problems with our current system. The first is that elected representatives have acquired the ability to vote money from public coffers and direct it to groups they select. This is an authority that contravenes the Constitution.
The second descends from the first. Since elected representatives have such power over these incredibly large sums of money that does not belong to them, an entire industry has grown up around them whose express purpose is to influence how that money is allocated.
The answer is simple to say, difficult to implement: Congress must be stripped of its ability to spend taxpayer money on extra-constitutional programs. Government must be returned to its constitutional boundaries and be prevented from redistributing wealth.
Then citizens must be educated on the principles of representative government, liberty, and self determination, rather than the leftist pap currently taught in public schools.
When voters can vote principle rather than self-interest, it won’t matter how many of them vote.
mountain man,
I agree with those sentiments completely. The problem is that Congress already lacks the power to spend money on extra-constitutional programs. As the Tenth Amendment makes clear, anything Congress does that is extra-constitutional is unconstitutional.
The reason why Congress ignores the Constitution, of course, is that the American people demand they ignore it. For all the griping about "pork," it wouldn't exist if the American people didn't demand their congressmen bring federal funds to their districts.
As for mandatory voting, I don't see how forcing people who don't care enough to vote willingly to go to polls will improve our democracy. I also don't think divisiveness is particularly unhealthy. I don't buy the "why can't we all just get along" approach to politics. I agree, instead, with you that education is largely to blame for the sad state of our citizenry.
I'm not optimistic, however, that the voters will ever vote on principle rather than self-interest. Even if the voters knew that the Constitution prohibits most government spending, I can't imagine them caring too much. In fact, I think that if the Constitution ever were to be restored, the people would repeal and replace it within a week.
Also, unless I'm missing something, Mr. Yerushalmi seems to lament the fact that voting is no longer restricted to white males. I read the paragraph several times, and I don't see how else to interpret his remarks. He credits that change to a nefarious "science-democracy obversion." This seems to suggest that he doesn't like it. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. I wouldn't want to misundertand Mr. Yerushalami in that manner.
What exactly do you mean by “rather than the leftist pap currently taught in public schools.”
Some examples please!!
How about forcing the politicians to run solely on fact based issues that this country faces not trivial dogmatic principles that serve only to incite, not to educate.
Most people are too stupid and avaricious to vote intelligently or wisely. That was true when the Founding Fathers crafted the Republic and it is true today. A republic only works well when there is a limited franchise. Mob democracy leads to the welfare state, socialism and moral squalor, which is the condition of each democracy in the Western World, from Sweden to Australia to the USA. Forcing people who are unwilling to vote only adds fire to the faults of democracy. Fortunately, Norman Ornstein’s wish is a pipedream.
Lyonbrave,
1) Self esteem training – Teaching students to feel good about themselves.
2) values clarification – Denying that there is any morality apart from what the student decides will work for him/her
3) Tolerance instruction – Tolerance meaning celebrating other lifestyle choices, but not tolerating those who disagree with his/her definition of tolerance
4) Revisionist history – Euro-centric history is bad, afro-centric and feminist history is good
5) ESL – teaching students in their native tongue, not english
6) Non-competition – no winners or losers, everyone’s achivements or lack therof are celebrated
7) Elimination of grades – grades are too divisive, too labeling, etc.
8) Sex ed/AIDs instruction – abstinence pooh-poohed, everyone is at risk for AIDs but a condom is enough, graphic discussions of homosexual sex from gays invited in to adress the class.
9) Emphasis on Feelings rather than objective facts
I was a public school teacher for five years and witnessed many of the above. The rest I have culled from newspaper articles and the evening news. You may agree with some or all of the above, but that is not relevant. The issue is that leftist pap is being taught in public schools, and all this is leftist pap.
Does Norman Ornstein seriously believe that having hordes of ill-informed voters go to the polls will improve the quality of our constitutional democracy? Our system of constitutional self-government needs an informed electorate, and the people who vote now are largely ill-informed. With young people getting their political news from “Saturday Night Live” and John Stewart’s “The Daily Show,” this is an exceptionally bad idea. Our democracy could be far better improved by putting a simple current events quiz on the ballot and throowing out the votes of those who don’t pass it.
In response to William W.
That has to be the absolute BEST idea I have heard in a long time. (But I would be horrified to know the huge number of people who would fail- but hey, maybe that would finally be an incentive to the dems and education lobby to honestly starting improving public schools and actually encourage intellectual curiosity)
I can see why any liberal or Democrat would be on board for mandatory voting: it was ignorant people with no interest or knowledge in the American political process that granted them the power they now weild, and it’s been slipping in the last couple presidential elections. The solution: more ignorant people with no interest or knowledge of the American political process. There’s plenty enough stupid people voting as it is without making it mandatory. In all seriousness, what America really could use is a constitutional amendment that restricts voting priveledges to people who have passed a constitutional and United States history examination.
“…..the silliness of this proposal is of course its seriousness.” This is a quote from an article I found at http://www.saneworks.us. They have an interesting point of view. Read it here: http://www.saneworks.us/Mandatory-Voting-A-Defense-of-Politics-as-Usual-article-161-11.htm
The shear contempt I am reading here for ordinary Americans is astounding. It sounds to me like the very idea of full participation by the general public in our democracy repulses conservatives.
No, we can’t let the stupid masses have the final word on who runs the country, if that happened we might actually get a government that represented the interests of the people.
Lighten up, Max. Once again you go off on a tantrum, demonstrating your irrational hatred of conservatives, based only on your strawman notions of what conservatives believe.
“Full participation by the general public” is a smokescreen. Don’t you leftists want felons to be able to vote from prison? And what about the insane? What about the mentally disabled? What about those who are not registered to vote? No, you’re not in favor of full participation, either.
You support the will of the people until that will contravenes leftist philosophy, right? Or will you repudiate leftist judges who continually overturn the will of the people as they express themselves at the polls?
When it gets right down to it, the will of the people is pretty much irrelevant in a representative republic, which is the form of government given to us by the founders. We were never intended as a democracy, or don’t you know your history?
When was the last time you voted on the federal budget, sir? Did you cast a vote in Roe V. Wade? Did you approve the B-1 Bomber, or the creation of the IRS? No, you did not vote on any of these, did you?
Democracy leads to tyranny. Three men and two women are on a desert island. The three men decide to take a vote to rape the two women. The three men vote yes, the two women no.
Isn’t democracy wonderful?
As a young Australian citizen who is active in my modern and vibrant democracy I was intrigued by the debate on this blog and found it to be healthy and thought provoking. However, this last comment reminded me of a moment Jack Nicholson’s character had in “A Few Good Men”, when pressed by Tom Cruises JAG lawyer character, confessing the truth of a conspiracy in a moment of heated anger under oath. I didn’t want to believe it at first but it seems clear the real motive of the American Conservative movement is not a mantra of a government “for the people by the people”, a concept which has contributed to such great moments in modern history such as the fall of the iron curtain, the liberation of Europe and Asia from the Fascists and the Imperialists, but, from an outsiders point of view, marginal freedoms for the masses, the erosion of the market place of ideas.
Yes, Americas might helps to protect the “free world” from the tyrannies of Communist dictatorships i.e. North Korea and in moderate terms China, or Theocratic dictatorships such as Iran. However, If the above attitude entailing comment 11 is to be believed as the prevailing view of democracy from the point of view of American conservatives, e.g. “Democracy leads to tyranny” and “…The will of the people is pretty much irrelevant in a representative republic”, than surely once the current world wide American hegemony prevails in most corners of the earth, which it probably soon will, the human race is surely in for some depressing times.
Well, Aussie, maybe you should read my entire comment. Doesn’t my example of a democracy on the desert island illustrate for you the problem of democracy? And when I listed a number of things that the American people have not voted on, does that not illustrate for you that America is not a democracy? The founders themselves specifically remarked that democracy leads to tyranny, so don’t blame me for it.
I will cut you some slack on America’s founding principles, since you are Australian and all. Your lack of understanding of the American system of government can therefore be forgiven. However, your remark about hegemony is not worthy of such grace. I wonder if you even know what the term means, given your manifest misuse of it.
I will repeat: America was conceived as a representative republic, precisely because of the substantial and significant flaws of democracy. In case you don’t know, a representative republic is when citizens vote for representatives who in turn vote democratically in the processes of government. Direct democracy is pretty rare in America, and is usually irrelevant given the frequency with which leftists use the courts to overturn the will of the people.
Like Max, you seem to have no idea what it means to be conservative. Your caricature of conservatives is beneath intellectual discussion. Also, it is amazing to me that you can read my post and take one or two phrases while ignoring the entire substance of what I wrote.
Why don’t you write again when you can step up to the table and discuss ideas from a position of knowledge and with a thoughtful, reasoned response?