Comments on: The ACLU v. National Security http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/08/28/2207/ Conservative and Libertarian Intellectual Philosophy and Politics Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:00:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: G of Sedona http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/08/28/2207/comment-page-1/#comment-22113 G of Sedona Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:07:05 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/2207/#comment-22113 Watching too much CNN? Two hundred attend Hezb'allah "victory" demonstration. http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008847 Watching too much CNN?

Two hundred attend Hezb’allah “victory” demonstration.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008847

]]> By: Honker http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/08/28/2207/comment-page-1/#comment-22096 Honker Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:16:42 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/2207/#comment-22096 The greatest two failures of the last 50 years of America are 1. The unbridled power of the Judicial system. 2. The inability of Americans to stomach what war really is. The Judicial system has all but thrown out the entire amendment process and left the rights, principles, and soon sovereignty (immigration) in the hands of 5 like-minded lawyers. No matter what side of the aisle these people fall under, 5 like minded appointees of which little to none is known, should not deprive the citizens of this country of its voice on such issues as abortion, national security, or property. If the ACLU truly cares about the rights of Americans, they would stop this blatant abuse of power by the courts. War- In today's society we would not have waged or won independence from Britain, ended slavery, or defeat the Nazi's. War is the ugliest of all things, and only a select few can really tolerate its means of being fought. The demise of this great country has begun under the cloak of political correctness, empathy for the enemy, and so called intellectualism. For all the spin of words, and beacons of logic, this band of Americans has not realized the most basic of life's principles; kill or be killed. We are in a war not of land, oil, or respect as the Chomsky's, Moore's , and MSM would have us believe. We are not in a war to save innocent people from hardship and to promote democracy as the President and the new media atttempts to portray. We are in the begining stages of a religious war where only one side believes it should have one. Until America is willing to kill innocent people relentlessly (anyone remember how WWII ended), take the spoils of this war (oil, where all the blood money derives), and destroy the will of Islamo-Fascist, we will not win. The weakness of America is not its military, it is within the citizens itself. This is the way this country is designed, to follow the will of its people, and if this current group of Americans does not have the will to win, America will be lost. In terms of relativity, America is still the greatest of all nations. In terms of the vision of America's founders, it would appear all has been lost. The greatest two failures of the last 50 years of America are
1. The unbridled power of the Judicial system.
2. The inability of Americans to stomach what war really is.

The Judicial system has all but thrown out the entire amendment process and left the rights, principles, and soon sovereignty (immigration) in the hands of 5 like-minded lawyers. No matter what side of the aisle these people fall under, 5 like minded appointees of which little to none is known, should not deprive the citizens of this country of its voice on such issues as abortion, national security, or property. If the ACLU truly cares about the rights of Americans, they would stop this blatant abuse of power by the courts.

War- In today’s society we would not have waged or won independence from Britain, ended slavery, or defeat the Nazi’s. War is the ugliest of all things, and only a select few can really tolerate its means of being fought. The demise of this great country has begun under the cloak of political correctness, empathy for the enemy, and so called intellectualism. For all the spin of words, and beacons of logic, this band of Americans has not realized the most basic of life’s principles; kill or be killed. We are in a war not of land, oil, or respect as the Chomsky’s, Moore’s , and MSM would have us believe. We are not in a war to save innocent people from hardship and to promote democracy as the President and the new media atttempts to portray. We are in the begining stages of a religious war where only one side believes it should have one. Until America is willing to kill innocent people relentlessly (anyone remember how WWII ended), take the spoils of this war (oil, where all the blood money derives), and destroy the will of Islamo-Fascist, we will not win. The weakness of America is not its military, it is within the citizens itself. This is the way this country is designed, to follow the will of its people, and if this current group of Americans does not have the will to win, America will be lost. In terms of relativity, America is still the greatest of all nations. In terms of the vision of America’s founders, it would appear all has been lost.

]]> By: Phil Jackson http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/08/28/2207/comment-page-1/#comment-22095 Phil Jackson Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:06:10 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/2207/#comment-22095 "The Constitution is not a suicide pact" --- Abraham Lincoln “The Constitution is not a suicide pact”

— Abraham Lincoln

]]> By: Anthony Pollock http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/08/28/2207/comment-page-1/#comment-22060 Anthony Pollock Tue, 29 Aug 2006 06:16:33 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/2207/#comment-22060 When you defend democracy and freedom by using tyranny you defeat yourself and the enemy has won. This war is not to be won on the traditional battlefield with guns, it is won on the TV screens of the world. Hizbollah won in lebanon defeating the mighty Israeli army because they were fighting a new kind of war and Israel was still fighting the way it did in 1947 and 1967 etc. and the war has changed. The lesson is ... Know which war you are fighting and the weapons the enemy is using. The USA should have learned from the Viet Nam experience that overwhelming military force cannot defeat a determined population and an idea, and that is what Islam is. The only way to defeat it militarily is by extermination. Is the USA prepared to kill every muslim man woman and child in the world? Committing political suicide by abandoning all that you stand for and love in the name of national security is to hand victory to your enemy. Do not confuse a constitution with law, they are not the same thing. The bill of rights forms the foundation for law and is not law itself. When you defend democracy and freedom by using tyranny you defeat yourself and the enemy has won. This war is not to be won on the traditional battlefield with guns, it is won on the TV screens of the world. Hizbollah won in lebanon defeating the mighty Israeli army because they were fighting a new kind of war and Israel was still fighting the way it did in 1947 and 1967 etc. and the war has changed. The lesson is … Know which war you are fighting and the weapons the enemy is using. The USA should have learned from the Viet Nam experience that overwhelming military force cannot defeat a determined population and an idea, and that is what Islam is. The only way to defeat it militarily is by extermination. Is the USA prepared to kill every muslim man woman and child in the world?

Committing political suicide by abandoning all that you stand for and love in the name of national security is to hand victory to your enemy.

Do not confuse a constitution with law, they are not the same thing. The bill of rights forms the foundation for law and is not law itself.

]]> By: G of Sedona http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/08/28/2207/comment-page-1/#comment-21999 G of Sedona Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:30:38 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/2207/#comment-21999 Keeping our eye on the ball. This situation the author describes reminds me of a Bill Cosby comedy routine in which he applies the coin-flip of a football game to battles in American history: Revolutionary War: “Cap’n Washington, this is Cap’n Cornwallis. Cap’n Cornwallis, this is Cap’n Washington. Cap’n Cornwallis, you are the visiting team; call the toss. He calls heads, and it’s tails. Cap’n Washington, you win the toss. What’ll it be? Um hum ... Um hum. Cap’n Cornwallis, Cap’n Washington and his men get to shoot from behind trees and bushes and wear green uniforms. You and your men have to march in a line out in the open and wear red!” Battle of Little Big Horn: “Cap’n Sitting Bull, this is Cap’n Custer. Cap’n Custer, this is Cap’n Sitting Bull. Cap’n Custer, you are the visiting team; call the toss. He calls heads, and it’s tails. Cap’n Sitting Bull, you win the toss. What’ll it be? Um hum ... Um hum. Cap’n Custer, Cap’n Sitting Bull says you get only 250 soldiers, and you and your men have to ride down to that valley and wait until Cap’n Sitting Bull and all the rest of the Indians in the world ride down on you!” Applying this metaphor to today: War on Terror: “Cap’n Romero (head of ACLU), this is Cap’n Bush. Cap’n Bush, this is Cap’n Romero. Cap’n Bush, you are the visiting team; call the toss. He calls heads, and it’s tails. Cap’n Romero, you win the toss. What’ll it be? Um hum ... Um hum. Cap’n Bush, Cap’n Romero says he and his men get to pick the judges from their membership. They get all the PR resources, the press, and get to approve your appointments. You and your men have to blindfold themselves, tie one hand behind their backs, and turn over to the ACLU any prisoners you capture!” Keeping our eye on the ball.
This situation the author describes reminds me of a Bill Cosby comedy routine in which he applies the coin-flip of a football game to battles in American history:
Revolutionary War: “Cap’n Washington, this is Cap’n Cornwallis. Cap’n Cornwallis, this is Cap’n Washington. Cap’n Cornwallis, you are the visiting team; call the toss. He calls heads, and it’s tails. Cap’n Washington, you win the toss. What’ll it be? Um hum … Um hum. Cap’n Cornwallis, Cap’n Washington and his men get to shoot from behind trees and bushes and wear green uniforms. You and your men have to march in a line out in the open and wear red!”
Battle of Little Big Horn: “Cap’n Sitting Bull, this is Cap’n Custer. Cap’n Custer, this is Cap’n Sitting Bull. Cap’n Custer, you are the visiting team; call the toss. He calls heads, and it’s tails. Cap’n Sitting Bull, you win the toss. What’ll it be? Um hum … Um hum. Cap’n Custer, Cap’n Sitting Bull says you get only 250 soldiers, and you and your men have to ride down to that valley and wait until Cap’n Sitting Bull and all the rest of the Indians in the world ride down on you!”
Applying this metaphor to today:
War on Terror: “Cap’n Romero (head of ACLU), this is Cap’n Bush. Cap’n Bush, this is Cap’n Romero. Cap’n Bush, you are the visiting team; call the toss. He calls heads, and it’s tails. Cap’n Romero, you win the toss. What’ll it be? Um hum … Um hum. Cap’n Bush, Cap’n Romero says he and his men get to pick the judges from their membership. They get all the PR resources, the press, and get to approve your appointments. You and your men have to blindfold themselves, tie one hand behind their backs, and turn over to the ACLU any prisoners you capture!”

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