Comments on: The Iraq Study Group Report Is A Farce. http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/12/08/the-iraq-study-group-report-is-a-farce/ Conservative and Libertarian Intellectual Philosophy and Politics Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:00:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: g8r hed http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/12/08/the-iraq-study-group-report-is-a-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-33514 g8r hed Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:12:30 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/the-iraq-study-group-report-is-a-farce/#comment-33514 Any reasonable report from a group serious about the perceived situation in Iraq should address the core value of our presence there. That core value rests on the social and economic advantage of EMPIRE, though I do not believe any of our esteemed statesmen realize it. Whether we like it or not - Western (U.S.) culture is at war with Islamic militants. Each is asserting it's power of state (empire) to achieve a desired (and opposing) social and economic environment. The question is whether that force is being used for percieved 'good' or 'bad'. First and foremost, any reasoned proposals should answer the question "to what extent does the force of state facilitate social and economic processes?" Any reasonable report from a group serious about the perceived situation in Iraq should address the core value of our presence there. That core value rests on the social and economic advantage of EMPIRE, though I do not believe any of our esteemed statesmen realize it.

Whether we like it or not – Western (U.S.) culture is at war with Islamic militants. Each is asserting it’s power of state (empire) to achieve a desired (and opposing) social and economic environment. The question is whether that force is being used for percieved ‘good’ or ‘bad’.

First and foremost, any reasoned proposals should answer the question “to what extent does the force of state facilitate social and economic processes?”

]]> By: Phillip Ellis Jackson http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/12/08/the-iraq-study-group-report-is-a-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-33424 Phillip Ellis Jackson Sat, 09 Dec 2006 06:50:04 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/the-iraq-study-group-report-is-a-farce/#comment-33424 I agree with most everything you said. I would only add that a visceral dislike on the part of the Left for anything Bush does, and the incessant drumbeat of negative news by a media looking only for negative news about Iraq, laid the foundation for the cut and walk conclusions of the Baker Hamilton report. Because of this, there is no public will to do the things that you describe to protect our national interests. It will take another attack to wake the country up. But even then I don't hold out much hope for real action. The Left will continue to Blame Bush for making the terrorists mad, and refuse to support any concerted, ongoing action to defeat them rather than appease them. It's going to be a long 21st century ... I agree with most everything you said. I would only add that a visceral dislike on the part of the Left for anything Bush does, and the incessant drumbeat of negative news by a media looking only for negative news about Iraq, laid the foundation for the cut and walk conclusions of the Baker Hamilton report.

Because of this, there is no public will to do the things that you describe to protect our national interests. It will take another attack to wake the country up. But even then I don’t hold out much hope for real action. The Left will continue to Blame Bush for making the terrorists mad, and refuse to support any concerted, ongoing action to defeat them rather than appease them.

It’s going to be a long 21st century …

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