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	<title>Comments on: The Christmas Grinch Revisited</title>
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		<title>By: William Woodford</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/12/16/the-christmas-grinch-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-34296</link>
		<dc:creator>William Woodford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ACLU has been an extreme left organization from its inception. Richard Gid Powers’ “Broken” reports that it was formed to protect the American radicals who wanted to replicate the Bolshevik Revolution here and that it included Communists in its leadership, a practice that continued until 1940.

As an extreme left organization its purpose is not to perfect traditional constitutional governance in this country but to promote socialism by using our constitutional rights against us. This explains why it is extremely selective in which civil liberties it supports; don’t expect it to uphold the Second, Ninth, Tenth Amendments, or Fourteenth Amendments. In this light, the ACLU’s attack on religion can be seen as a leftist assault on a bulwark against the moral relativism required by socialism.

The large number of presumably secular Jews in the ACLU can be seen as an effect of disproportional Jewish support for collectivism and socialism. It seems unlikely that the Judaic religion looks upon the objectivization of people and exploitation by collectivist goverance with favor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ACLU has been an extreme left organization from its inception. Richard Gid Powers’ “Broken” reports that it was formed to protect the American radicals who wanted to replicate the Bolshevik Revolution here and that it included Communists in its leadership, a practice that continued until 1940.</p>
<p>As an extreme left organization its purpose is not to perfect traditional constitutional governance in this country but to promote socialism by using our constitutional rights against us. This explains why it is extremely selective in which civil liberties it supports; don’t expect it to uphold the Second, Ninth, Tenth Amendments, or Fourteenth Amendments. In this light, the ACLU’s attack on religion can be seen as a leftist assault on a bulwark against the moral relativism required by socialism.</p>
<p>The large number of presumably secular Jews in the ACLU can be seen as an effect of disproportional Jewish support for collectivism and socialism. It seems unlikely that the Judaic religion looks upon the objectivization of people and exploitation by collectivist goverance with favor.</p>
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		<title>By: sedonaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>sedonaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...the ACLU is made up in good part ...&quot;  

There is no &quot;good part&quot; of the ACLU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;the ACLU is made up in good part &#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>There is no &#8220;good part&#8221; of the ACLU.</p>
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		<title>By: David Yerushalmi</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/12/16/the-christmas-grinch-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-33897</link>
		<dc:creator>David Yerushalmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will add to this discussion in the following ways. As a Jew who does accept the obligation to observe the commandments, and as one who is fluent in Hebrew, Yiddish, and English, the point that the Jews have in the main, once assimilated, become the legions for the World State Elite is hardly debatable. That there is a kind of conservative return by a small segment of the non-observant Jewish population is also true but it is still insignificant. In the main, religious Jews are conservative and non-religious Jews liberal. The vast majority of American Jews are non-observant.

There are many possible explanations for the fact that Jews tend to take the lead in World State ideologies, but that is really beside the point. They do.

The whole Chabad fiasco at the airport represents a problem. The reverse of this is taking place right now in a little village in the New York area where Chabad has a menorah and the Christians want to put up a display and the authorities decided to take down the menorah instead. 

The problem is multi-culturalism. When Chabad began putting up menorahs, it did so on the basis of its leader&#039;s (the Lubavitcher Rebbe’s) view in the 1970s and 80s that America was losing the battle to secularism. The Rebbe also supported a moment of silence for prayer in public schools, even though he knew that the Jews of the ACLU and the ADL opposed even that. The Rebbe said publicly many times that this country was blessed because of the faith of the founding Christians and those who followed who had the audacity to inscribe In G-d We Trust on their coinage.

Today, the problem is not what it was in the 70s and 80s. Today, the problem is that in our multi-cultural Open Society it is not possible for Christians to protect the nation&#039;s character. If you put up a tree, you must put up a menora, a Wiccan symbol, a Muslim Jihadist or some such nonsense. We have reduced national existence to what can only be called Indiscrimancy, which means there can be no such thing as a people. In a world full of modern liberal democracies, what you really have is one world state where people might speak different languages but otherwise there would be &quot;convergence.&quot;

Conservative or patriotic Jews today must recognize that the moment America is NOT a Christian nation, the Jews&#039; will be at risk. In a perfect world, the Jews shouldn&#039;t have to rely on American Christian&#039;s kindnesses but on their own nation-state. But that is not in the cards for now so we have but one real option: protect America&#039;s national existence by fighting our liberal brethren every step of the way and the Muslims who would kill us all, Jew and Christian alike, simply.

Burt: good job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will add to this discussion in the following ways. As a Jew who does accept the obligation to observe the commandments, and as one who is fluent in Hebrew, Yiddish, and English, the point that the Jews have in the main, once assimilated, become the legions for the World State Elite is hardly debatable. That there is a kind of conservative return by a small segment of the non-observant Jewish population is also true but it is still insignificant. In the main, religious Jews are conservative and non-religious Jews liberal. The vast majority of American Jews are non-observant.</p>
<p>There are many possible explanations for the fact that Jews tend to take the lead in World State ideologies, but that is really beside the point. They do.</p>
<p>The whole Chabad fiasco at the airport represents a problem. The reverse of this is taking place right now in a little village in the New York area where Chabad has a menorah and the Christians want to put up a display and the authorities decided to take down the menorah instead. </p>
<p>The problem is multi-culturalism. When Chabad began putting up menorahs, it did so on the basis of its leader&#8217;s (the Lubavitcher Rebbe’s) view in the 1970s and 80s that America was losing the battle to secularism. The Rebbe also supported a moment of silence for prayer in public schools, even though he knew that the Jews of the ACLU and the ADL opposed even that. The Rebbe said publicly many times that this country was blessed because of the faith of the founding Christians and those who followed who had the audacity to inscribe In G-d We Trust on their coinage.</p>
<p>Today, the problem is not what it was in the 70s and 80s. Today, the problem is that in our multi-cultural Open Society it is not possible for Christians to protect the nation&#8217;s character. If you put up a tree, you must put up a menora, a Wiccan symbol, a Muslim Jihadist or some such nonsense. We have reduced national existence to what can only be called Indiscrimancy, which means there can be no such thing as a people. In a world full of modern liberal democracies, what you really have is one world state where people might speak different languages but otherwise there would be &#8220;convergence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Conservative or patriotic Jews today must recognize that the moment America is NOT a Christian nation, the Jews&#8217; will be at risk. In a perfect world, the Jews shouldn&#8217;t have to rely on American Christian&#8217;s kindnesses but on their own nation-state. But that is not in the cards for now so we have but one real option: protect America&#8217;s national existence by fighting our liberal brethren every step of the way and the Muslims who would kill us all, Jew and Christian alike, simply.</p>
<p>Burt: good job!</p>
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		<title>By: Lane Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lane Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 03:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the interest of clarity, I thought I should share something I read at www.chabad.org in the article &quot;Fight or Light?&quot; Apparently, Rabbi Elazar Bogomilsky and Seattle Port Authority Consultant Mitchell Stein wanted to erect a menorah at Seatac Airport. The officials in charge of such things at the airport didn&#039;t seem to want a menorah, and when, after being put off repeatedly by those in charge, the Rabbi suggested legal action, it was the airport&#039;s decision to yank the Christmas trees. The airport&#039;s decision, not the Rabbi&#039;s demand. Rabbi Bogomilsky apparently has nothing against Christmas trees, he just wanted a menorah put up; a request which, I think, is eminently reasonable. Anyway, the full article is available at chabad.org.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the interest of clarity, I thought I should share something I read at <a href="http://www.chabad.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.chabad.org</a> in the article &#8220;Fight or Light?&#8221; Apparently, Rabbi Elazar Bogomilsky and Seattle Port Authority Consultant Mitchell Stein wanted to erect a menorah at Seatac Airport. The officials in charge of such things at the airport didn&#8217;t seem to want a menorah, and when, after being put off repeatedly by those in charge, the Rabbi suggested legal action, it was the airport&#8217;s decision to yank the Christmas trees. The airport&#8217;s decision, not the Rabbi&#8217;s demand. Rabbi Bogomilsky apparently has nothing against Christmas trees, he just wanted a menorah put up; a request which, I think, is eminently reasonable. Anyway, the full article is available at chabad.org.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben-Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben-Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! What can I say? Burt knows how to win an argument. 
As for the ACLU, they need to chill. I hope Jesus or Santa 
knocks on their office door and scares the hell out of them. Ha, ha. 
Then again, perhaps we should send them a dwarf in the mail. Ha, ha. 
Honestly, how can you not be happy in December? Jesus is the 
reason for the season, and we all need to share a cold beer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! What can I say? Burt knows how to win an argument.<br />
As for the ACLU, they need to chill. I hope Jesus or Santa<br />
knocks on their office door and scares the hell out of them. Ha, ha.<br />
Then again, perhaps we should send them a dwarf in the mail. Ha, ha.<br />
Honestly, how can you not be happy in December? Jesus is the<br />
reason for the season, and we all need to share a cold beer.</p>
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