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	<title>Comments on: Senator Obama and the Social Gospel</title>
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		<title>By: Jerseyboy</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/12/20/senator-obama-and-the-social-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-34203</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerseyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for &quot;vetting&quot; out  a lot of concerns I&#039;ve had in my mind about Obama. Although it&#039;s nice to see Black Evangelicals like Obama and Harold Ford Jr. step up to the plate and not back away from their Christianity, it remains to be seen how they will govern. In the end, Liberalism and the Social Gospel is what I believe we will be left with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for &#034;vetting&#034; out  a lot of concerns I&#039;ve had in my mind about Obama. Although it&#039;s nice to see Black Evangelicals like Obama and Harold Ford Jr. step up to the plate and not back away from their Christianity, it remains to be seen how they will govern. In the end, Liberalism and the Social Gospel is what I believe we will be left with.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mountain Man,

I agree with what you said about leftism. For them their religion is politics. It must be because their faith is progress and societal transformation. An astute observation. However, I don&#039;t think it is usually a good idea to publicly question someone&#039;s faith or sincerity based only on their politics. (I don’t think that is what you are necessarily saying, but I can anticipate certain objections to my article from the Christian right.) 

I know many Christians, especially on the right, disagree. They see an embrace of the pro-choice position, for example, as a sure sign that someone’s faith is flawed. (This is potentially but not necessarily distinct from saying someone is “On a freight train to Hell.”) This is a very complicated theological discussion.

On the second issue re. P &amp; W music, I realize the paradox that today’s tradition is yesterday’s novelty.

At first I wrote out a very long answer addressing both points, but each issue is really a separate article. I will clean them up a bit and submit them separately. If you don’t want to wait, then e-mail me, and I will send you my initial reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mountain Man,</p>
<p>I agree with what you said about leftism. For them their religion is politics. It must be because their faith is progress and societal transformation. An astute observation. However, I don&#039;t think it is usually a good idea to publicly question someone&#039;s faith or sincerity based only on their politics. (I don’t think that is what you are necessarily saying, but I can anticipate certain objections to my article from the Christian right.) </p>
<p>I know many Christians, especially on the right, disagree. They see an embrace of the pro-choice position, for example, as a sure sign that someone’s faith is flawed. (This is potentially but not necessarily distinct from saying someone is “On a freight train to Hell.”) This is a very complicated theological discussion.</p>
<p>On the second issue re. P &amp; W music, I realize the paradox that today’s tradition is yesterday’s novelty.</p>
<p>At first I wrote out a very long answer addressing both points, but each issue is really a separate article. I will clean them up a bit and submit them separately. If you don’t want to wait, then e-mail me, and I will send you my initial reply.</p>
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		<title>By: Mountain Man</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/12/20/senator-obama-and-the-social-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-34019</link>
		<dc:creator>Mountain Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the leftist, everything is viewed through a political prism, even faith.  It isn&#039;t even necessary to speculate on the genuineness of Obama&#039;s faith, since the religion of the left is politics. This means the sayings of Jesus that happen to coincide with leftist politics will be implemented via government programs, not through individual acts of compassion in obedience to Jesus. Obama is simply looking for the political outlet for his faith in a leftist context.

However, the real issue is that the Left uses Christianity as a political bludgeon to be used against Christian concervatives to remind them how evil, selfish, and uncaring they are when they don&#039;t support government spending.  Only the Left embraces true Christianity (which is non-judgmental and without standards of conduct), so the intolerant Right must be separated from government and society. That is what is meant by &quot;separation of church and state.&quot;

One last thing. The author appears to dislike &quot;praise and worship&quot; music. I presume he is talking about contemporary, rock based, guitar driven Christian music. But since the hymns of past generations were also contemporary Christian in their day, does the author also dislike them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the leftist, everything is viewed through a political prism, even faith.  It isn&#039;t even necessary to speculate on the genuineness of Obama&#039;s faith, since the religion of the left is politics. This means the sayings of Jesus that happen to coincide with leftist politics will be implemented via government programs, not through individual acts of compassion in obedience to Jesus. Obama is simply looking for the political outlet for his faith in a leftist context.</p>
<p>However, the real issue is that the Left uses Christianity as a political bludgeon to be used against Christian concervatives to remind them how evil, selfish, and uncaring they are when they don&#039;t support government spending.  Only the Left embraces true Christianity (which is non-judgmental and without standards of conduct), so the intolerant Right must be separated from government and society. That is what is meant by &#034;separation of church and state.&#034;</p>
<p>One last thing. The author appears to dislike &#034;praise and worship&#034; music. I presume he is talking about contemporary, rock based, guitar driven Christian music. But since the hymns of past generations were also contemporary Christian in their day, does the author also dislike them?</p>
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