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		<title>By: Patrick Mulligan</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/02/05/the-times-dishes-it-out-but-cant-take-it/comment-page-1/#comment-37152</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Mulligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On this issue, I think it&#039;s wise to take a cue from Thomas Jefferson:

“I do not take a single newspaper, nor read one a month, and I feel myself infinitely the happier for it.” 
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“The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who 
reads nothing but newspapers.” 
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“I read no newspaper now but Ritchie&#039;s, and in that chiefly the advertisements, for they contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper.” – Letter to Nathaniel Macon, January 12, 1819</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this issue, I think it&#8217;s wise to take a cue from Thomas Jefferson:</p>
<p>“I do not take a single newspaper, nor read one a month, and I feel myself infinitely the happier for it.”<br />
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“The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who<br />
reads nothing but newspapers.”<br />
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“I read no newspaper now but Ritchie&#8217;s, and in that chiefly the advertisements, for they contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper.” – Letter to Nathaniel Macon, January 12, 1819</p>
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		<title>By: sedonaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>sedonaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“So why has the NYTimes, in your opinion lost so much marketshare?”  
Consider:  

&quot;Any affirmative action plan that doesn&#039;t take race into account is worthless.&quot; -- &lt;i&gt;New York Times&lt;/i&gt; editorializing over the University of Michigan being sued for racial discrimination against whites.  

&quot;Our affirmative action plan doesn&#039;t take race into account.&quot; -- &lt;i&gt;The New York Times&lt;/i&gt; trying to explain that their hiring of Jayson Blaire (a black reporter who fabricated news articles) was not because of his race. (Never mind he fabricated his stories.)  

It is also quite obvious to everyone except the dead that &lt;i&gt;The Times&lt;/i&gt; has what Charles Krauthammer calls &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; (BDR) and has been trying to subvert the president&#039;s every move, ever since the election of 2000. This is not to say one cannot reasonably disagree with the President&#039;s policies. The trouble is, the disagreement coming out of the &lt;i&gt;The Times&lt;/i&gt; has been decidedly unreasonable, if not lunatic. For example, if a &lt;i&gt;Times&lt;/i&gt; reporter asked the president what time it is, and the president said, “It’s two o’clock,” the reporter would likely say, “Aha! It’s 2:02! That makes you a liar!” Those responsible for the content of the paper have apparently forgotten that a good percentage of the population voted for Bush and continue to support his foreign police of no appeasement, and that they do so because they, unlike &lt;i&gt;The Times’&lt;/i&gt; editors, are smart enough to know that appeasement of your enemies has never worked and never will.  

&lt;i&gt;The Times&lt;/i&gt; has also on many occasions flirted with treason by knowingly printing classified information that made fighting the war more difficult for the U.S.  

In view of the above, a better question to ask might be why anyone would still take &lt;i&gt;The Times&lt;/i&gt; unless he a) is himself afflicted by BDR, b) is an enemy of the U.S., or c) needs to for business reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“So why has the NYTimes, in your opinion lost so much marketshare?”<br />
Consider:  </p>
<p>&#8220;Any affirmative action plan that doesn&#8217;t take race into account is worthless.&#8221; &#8212; <i>New York Times</i> editorializing over the University of Michigan being sued for racial discrimination against whites.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Our affirmative action plan doesn&#8217;t take race into account.&#8221; &#8212; <i>The New York Times</i> trying to explain that their hiring of Jayson Blaire (a black reporter who fabricated news articles) was not because of his race. (Never mind he fabricated his stories.)  </p>
<p>It is also quite obvious to everyone except the dead that <i>The Times</i> has what Charles Krauthammer calls &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; (BDR) and has been trying to subvert the president&#8217;s every move, ever since the election of 2000. This is not to say one cannot reasonably disagree with the President&#8217;s policies. The trouble is, the disagreement coming out of the <i>The Times</i> has been decidedly unreasonable, if not lunatic. For example, if a <i>Times</i> reporter asked the president what time it is, and the president said, “It’s two o’clock,” the reporter would likely say, “Aha! It’s 2:02! That makes you a liar!” Those responsible for the content of the paper have apparently forgotten that a good percentage of the population voted for Bush and continue to support his foreign police of no appeasement, and that they do so because they, unlike <i>The Times’</i> editors, are smart enough to know that appeasement of your enemies has never worked and never will.  </p>
<p><i>The Times</i> has also on many occasions flirted with treason by knowingly printing classified information that made fighting the war more difficult for the U.S.  </p>
<p>In view of the above, a better question to ask might be why anyone would still take <i>The Times</i> unless he a) is himself afflicted by BDR, b) is an enemy of the U.S., or c) needs to for business reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: fjh</title>
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		<dc:creator>fjh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 23:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why has the NYTimes, in your opinion lost so much marketshare?

Internet? liberal bias? travel promotions for $500/night resorts?
Ads for hideous Bulgari hand bags? 

Media moguls have some unique formulas for making money from their media.  Read the SHIPPING NEWS by Annie Prouleux and learn how news stories are written using the famous example of an off shore storm...What&#039;s changed in the NYT&#039;s formula?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why has the NYTimes, in your opinion lost so much marketshare?</p>
<p>Internet? liberal bias? travel promotions for $500/night resorts?<br />
Ads for hideous Bulgari hand bags? </p>
<p>Media moguls have some unique formulas for making money from their media.  Read the SHIPPING NEWS by Annie Prouleux and learn how news stories are written using the famous example of an off shore storm&#8230;What&#8217;s changed in the NYT&#8217;s formula?</p>
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		<title>By: sedonaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>sedonaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is more truth printed on the label of a can of tomatoes than in your average daily newspaper.&quot; -- &lt;i&gt;Gaily, Gaily: The Autobiography of Ben Hecht&lt;/i&gt;, referring to his experience as a reporter for &lt;i&gt;The Chicago Tribune&lt;/i&gt;. His observation was made way before the Truth in Labeling Act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is more truth printed on the label of a can of tomatoes than in your average daily newspaper.&#8221; &#8212; <i>Gaily, Gaily: The Autobiography of Ben Hecht</i>, referring to his experience as a reporter for <i>The Chicago Tribune</i>. His observation was made way before the Truth in Labeling Act.</p>
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		<title>By: sedonaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>sedonaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In the final analysis, even socialists have to pay attention to the capitalist marketplace. &quot;  

This is the Leftist/liberal/socialist Achilles heel. It&#039;s never their unworkable ideas; it&#039;s always the failure of society to implement them properly. In the immortal words of George Will, &quot;When a liberal presidential candidate fails to carry Kansas, do they ask what&#039;s wrong with their candidate? No. The book they quickly turn into a best seller is, &#039;What&#039;s the Matter With Kansas?&#039;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In the final analysis, even socialists have to pay attention to the capitalist marketplace. &#8221;  </p>
<p>This is the Leftist/liberal/socialist Achilles heel. It&#8217;s never their unworkable ideas; it&#8217;s always the failure of society to implement them properly. In the immortal words of George Will, &#8220;When a liberal presidential candidate fails to carry Kansas, do they ask what&#8217;s wrong with their candidate? No. The book they quickly turn into a best seller is, &#8216;What&#8217;s the Matter With Kansas?&#8217;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: fjh</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/02/05/the-times-dishes-it-out-but-cant-take-it/comment-page-1/#comment-37097</link>
		<dc:creator>fjh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Under Sulzberger, the NYTimes became dominated by liberal secular Jews, whose views permeate every aspect including the puzzles and &#039;filler&#039;.

The media and for that matter Hillary&#039;s army of media backers, are largely drawn from this universe of writers; but the problem is that the rise of alternative media has caused non-Jews to identify the intense bias...if I have to read another catty STYLE section review next Sunday....and to switch to electronic media feeds from non-biased sources. 

NEW YORKER has the same writing policy....about Jews, for Jewish readers, or, even worse, by Jews about other cultures. 

I&#039;ve read and cherished both of these publications since I could read and either I&#039;ve gotten sensitized to the policy bias in both; or they have really targeted their audience and left out much of the rest of emerging America....surely there is more to travel than a piece on the congregations in CUBA? 

the NYTimes has violated its once vaulted journalistic standards in ways that have sullied its credibility...Publishing Wilson&#039;s diatribe against the Bush administration is just one example...are they protecting Berger because he is &#039;one of them&#039; i.e. a liberal Jew and would they if he were a Black Baptist? 

Don&#039;t think this is racist; it&#039;s really cultural. Many conservative Jews instantly recognize the bias and remember the old days when it was hidden...if I want biased writing I&#039;ll go to the Jeruselem Post or, gasp, DEBKA FILE. But the NYTimes was a beacon of integrity; the paper of record with an obsession with telling the truth in a fair and astute manner.

I yearn for the old days when I read it, front to back, every morning no matter where I was and what I was doing. 

Now when I read it, I stumble over the bias in articles like rocks in what was once a superhighway to the truth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under Sulzberger, the NYTimes became dominated by liberal secular Jews, whose views permeate every aspect including the puzzles and &#8216;filler&#8217;.</p>
<p>The media and for that matter Hillary&#8217;s army of media backers, are largely drawn from this universe of writers; but the problem is that the rise of alternative media has caused non-Jews to identify the intense bias&#8230;if I have to read another catty STYLE section review next Sunday&#8230;.and to switch to electronic media feeds from non-biased sources. </p>
<p>NEW YORKER has the same writing policy&#8230;.about Jews, for Jewish readers, or, even worse, by Jews about other cultures. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read and cherished both of these publications since I could read and either I&#8217;ve gotten sensitized to the policy bias in both; or they have really targeted their audience and left out much of the rest of emerging America&#8230;.surely there is more to travel than a piece on the congregations in CUBA? </p>
<p>the NYTimes has violated its once vaulted journalistic standards in ways that have sullied its credibility&#8230;Publishing Wilson&#8217;s diatribe against the Bush administration is just one example&#8230;are they protecting Berger because he is &#8216;one of them&#8217; i.e. a liberal Jew and would they if he were a Black Baptist? </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think this is racist; it&#8217;s really cultural. Many conservative Jews instantly recognize the bias and remember the old days when it was hidden&#8230;if I want biased writing I&#8217;ll go to the Jeruselem Post or, gasp, DEBKA FILE. But the NYTimes was a beacon of integrity; the paper of record with an obsession with telling the truth in a fair and astute manner.</p>
<p>I yearn for the old days when I read it, front to back, every morning no matter where I was and what I was doing. </p>
<p>Now when I read it, I stumble over the bias in articles like rocks in what was once a superhighway to the truth!</p>
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