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Arizona Tea Parties produce video asking why McCain was absent from the Stand by Arizona rally





JD HAYWORTH V. MCCAIN NEWS

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Why this Vietnam POW is supporting JD over McCain

Sonoran Alliance poll: Should Deakin bow out of race?"

Why John McCain should vote for JD Hayworth for the U.S. Senate

Jim Deakin: Part of the McCain strategy to win?

Vietnam POW, friend of McCain, endorses JD Hayworth

Jim Deakin: "Tea Party Activist" or wannabe McCain?

MSNBC Schultz on McCain: "Biggest political opportunist of the century"

Hello to the McCain government staffers illegally doing opposition research on JD on my website AGAIN, an FEC violation

McCain's new word for amnesty: "Regularize"

New York Magazine article on McCain: Palin wouldn't even return his phone calls

JD trounces McCain in AZ Tea Party poll

Rocky Mountain Poll doctored to give McCain big lead over Hayworth

Hayworth thanks Selig for keeping All-Star Game in Phoenix despite protesters

McCain "chose lying" then; is doing same now

JD Hayworth massively leading McCain in Sonoran News poll

McCain has flip-flopped from right to left to save his Arizona seat in the Senate

Slate: The Saddest Senator - Why John McCain has become so painful to watch

It's all an act for McCain

Richardson counting on McCain pro-amnesty vote

McCain shape-shifter; no statesman

Hayworth launches first television ad

Vet confronts McCain on his poor history of voting for Vets; catches him lying about having a "100%" record

McCain pushes amnesty on trip

Senator McCain urged to let go, retire

Why is Deakin staying in the race, taking votes away from Hayworth, helping McCain?

The Real McCain website

National Review sells out (was threatened?) and endorses Hayworth over McCain

Arizona Republic, John McCain="Epic Fail"

The Tea Party race of the year

http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/06/23/mccain-a-maverick-la-raza-can-rely-upon/

Mark Levin discusses on his radio show why he is supporting Hayworth over McCain

McCain, Obama - Allies for Amnesty

Spoiler Deakin stays in race

Never-before released video of McCain with convicted felon

Another National Review writer disagrees with its endorsement of McCain over Hayworth

John McCain still supports amnesty and knows it - numerous video clips

Why Jim Deakin Should Support JD Hayworth for the US Senate

Morning Joe: Remembering John McCain’s dirty politics & dirty campaigning

Joe Scarborough: “John McCain is NOT a Conservative!”

Neil Cavuto on John McCain: “You Have No Convictions”

John McCain and the Keating Five

If it's Sunday, it's John McCain on the TV news shows

Mark Levin responds to National Review's bizarre endorsement of McCain over Hayworth

Video of Jim Deakin: Says he has 20% support when he has only 7%

Hayworth releases three videos disputing McCain's charges

McCain must come clean on lobbyist ties

Where's McCain? Fails to join 8 Senators denouncing Obama's amnesty plan

McCain hypocritically hides free government grant info off his website today

Hayworth statement on National Grant Conferences

Hypocrisy: McCain website prominently contains lengthy info on how to receive government grants

McCain's Millions on Ads Misfiring; Poll Shows he Faces the "Specter" of Defeat

More Silly, Spurious, Speciousness from Team McCain

Who’s the Real Lobbyist? John McCain or JD Hayworth?

John McCain: Hypocrite on lobbyists

National Review's Mark Levin slams McCain's record - he's no conservative even on earmarks/spending

Biggest McCain flip-flop ever - says he never supported amnesty

AP: Bailout vote could claim 2 more GOP lawmakers (bad news for McCain)

Analysis of Hayworth-McCain Rasmussen poll: McCain dropped in points due to 3rd-party candidate Deakin

NY Times: McCain is running just to stay in place

New Rasmussen poll: McCain drops below 50% down to 47%, 5 points, dangerous territory for an incumbent

Company behind the infomercial JD Hayworth appeared in donated $9,400 to McCain

Hundreds show up for Sheriff Arpaio's BBQ birthday party with JD Hayworth

Another Arizona Tea Party video against McCain

McCain challenged to debate on "Any Given Sunday">

Another Arizona Tea Party group endorses Hayworth

McCain frivolous FEC complaint rejected

Convicted Ponzi scheme criminal Rothstein was top contributor to McCain's campaign

Hayworth calls on McCain to admit knowing Rothstein

More McCain Ponzi problems; dirty money donors three, four and five

John Fund: John McCain was all about Washington

Politico lists McCain as one of top two Senators most likely to be ousted next in their primary

McCain hypocritically attacking JD Hayworth for others' earmarks - while McCain is huge earmarker for defense jobs in AZ

Yet another McCain donor pleads guilty in elaborate Ponzi scheme

McCain urged to establish fund for Ponzi victims whose money ended up financing his campaign

McCain's convenient loss of memory regarding his friendship with convicted Ponzi scheme contributor

John McCain fundraiser sentenced to 50 years for $1.2 billion Ponzi scheme

Quotes you never heard before from John McCain

McCain senior advisor Grant Woods was fined for hiring illegal immigrant nanny

Ward campaign clarifies TV ad featuring Ward's former Treasurer supporting McCain

New McCain ad features woman who chooses Dem. Harry Mitchell over JD Hayworth

McCain’s Senior Advisor Grant Woods: “To be an Arizonan is to be a part of Mexico”

Life Decisions International: Pro-life leaders favor Hayworth over McCain

Desperation: McCain rips off the AZ Right to Life website

McCain polling as poorly as Arlen Specter - and Specter lost

AZ Right to Life endorses McCain: I resign

Hayworth has better record than McCain on pro-life issues

Bob Bennett ousted in GOP primary over TARP....Is McCain next?

McCain Meltdown

McCain flip-flopping on TARP; pretends he only supported billion dollar mortgage bailouts

Front page Arizona Republic article calls McCain out on border security flip-flopping

NY Times on McCain's "Danged Fence" - he should be apologizing to Arizona," is "backtracking all over the place"

JD Hayworth launches "The Complete Danged Truth" website

Rep. John Shadegg and Joe Scarborough mock McCain's "Danged Fence" ad

Washington Post's The Fix: Has John McCain started to panic?

Respected political analyst Charlie Cook calls race "dead even"

McCain labeled flip-flopper by media

Glenn Beck RIPS John McCain this morning!

Hayworth challenges McCain to challenge Kagan

Utah Senator Bob Bennett ousted from GOP primary due to TARP support; will McCain be next?

JD Hayworth launches social networking site for supporters

McCain attacking JD Hayworth much more than he attacked Obama

Candid interview with JD from a citizen in Tucson

JD reaches $255,100 goal of money bomb to put video ads on TV

Arizona Republic columnist on McCain refusing to debate JD: "This time, JD is right"

"Stop Running! - Let's Debate!" Says Hayworth

From SB1070 to JD's book on illegal immigration: "Whatever it Takes"

Deakin risks his political future in AZ by staying in Senate race; is he a secret McCain ally?

Jim Deakin, helping McCain get reelected?

McCain calls Goldman Sachs "unethical" despite taking their money

JD Hayworth only US Senate candidate in Arizona to sign AFP's No Climate Tax pledge

Prominent Republicans seek refunds from Crist; McCain has close ties, refuses to

Hayworth re-issues debate challenge to McCain; 65 days since he first asked

Video: Have you met the two McCains?

Poll shows Hayworth leading McCain among conservatives

Margaret Carlson: McCain has entered witness protection program for politicians seeking to change their identity for election purposes

More speculation on whether McCain will run as an Independent like Crist

Video: JD Hayworth takes McCain and SB1070 on Fox News

Video: JD Hayworth responds to McCain's election year conversion on border security

Hayworth welcomes Gov. Brewer's signature on SB1070

Arizona Police Association endorses JD Hayworth for Senate

Michelle Malkin endorses JD Hayworth

Quid pro quo? Top contributors to McCain's campaign benefited from pork bailouts he voted for

McCain sends out desperate letter pleading for funds for radio & TV ads; pretends he doesn't support pork barrel spending

McCain's long history of flip-flopping on gay marrage

John McCain's whimsical world of conservatism

Left wing Salon admits Hayworth will also win a general election - yet still bashes McCain for flip-flopping

Tucson Border Patrol union denounces McCain's election year conversion on border security

TwiceRight.com: Young Conservative puts forth "My case for JD Hayworth"

Hayworth calls McCain's new immigration plan "Election Year Gimmick"

Which John McCain is the real John McCain? The maverick or someone who denies he's a maverick?

Syndicated Columnist Leonard Pitts: R.I.P.: Paying Final Tribute to John McCain's Deceased Integrity

Border Agents Accuse McCain of Being a "Sellout"

New Rasmussen Poll Shows McCain Collapsing

Rasmussen: McCain lead over Hayworth plummets to under 5 points

Video of McCain running from camera when asked about JD Hayworth!

Hayworth, Thomas and Schweikert among most prominent politicos at Tempe Tax Day Tea Party, McCain didn't even have a booth

Hayworth v. McCain: How to Put the Fear of God into the GOP



Hayworth Exceeds $1 Million in Donations in First Six Weeks - raising money faster than Rubio


JD Hayworth on Arizona's sanctuary city bill

McCain crude ad attacking Hayworth backfires; criticized by leading strategists on both sides

JD Hayworth calls on McCain to oppose possible Hillary Clinton appointment to Supreme Court; no response

Hayworth to McCain: Stop Stalling Debates

McCain campaign wastes time with goofy college kid ad attacking JD; ducking requests for substantive debate

Hayworth endorsed by National Association of Police Organizations

The Daily Caller: McCain should run as an Independent

Border-line Delusional: John McCain in his own words

Hundreds Attend Biggest AZ Republican and Conservative Events of the Year: JD Hayworth Keynote, McCain Missing

World Magazine: McCain's reputation for crossing party lines costing him with his base

Hayworth Pledges Obamacare Repeal, McCain Lags Behind

Former Attorney General refuses to apologize for violent remark: "A stake should be driven through Hayworth's heart"

Interview with Pajamas Media: JD drafted the tax cuts that McCain opposed

Jon Stewart's Daily Show documents McCain's flip-flops: Say Anything

New Non-Maverick McCain running for US Senate

Wall Street Journal calls McCain out on new flip-flop claiming he is not a maverick

Hayworth v. McCain analogous to Tea Party v. D.C.

More evidence of McCain flip-flopping on calling himself a maverick

McCain supporters inaccurately attack Maricopa GOP for hosting JD at event

Newsweek: Another McCain flip-flop - now denies he's a maverick

Samuel J. “Joe The Plumber” Wurzelbacher on JD Hayworth

Sarah Palin's Folly: Stumping for John McCain

The Terry Anderson Show features catchy folk song, "McCain's Gotta Go"

Another Tea Party group leaning towards Hayworth: Tea Party Express

Tea Party Express rally in Phoenix attracts thousands; JD Hayworth and Joe the Plumber main speakers with McCain nowhere to be found

Joe the Plumber and JD Hayworth headline Ax the Tax rally in Phoenix; McCain noticeably absent

McCain performing poorly in Fox News poll, "Can McCain save his seat?"

Palin unable to save McCain, only 2500 show up for rally in greater Phoenix area

Palin rally in Tucson full of dissenters and JD Hayworth supporters

Fox News coverage of the Sarah Palin Supporters for JD Hayworth facebook page

NY Daily News: McCain "fighting for his political life" against Hayworth

Hayworth endorses tough AZ immigration bill; McCain stays silent

Sign the Stop McCain Amnesty Petition

JD talks candidly with voters in Sierra Vista about his differences with McCain

Los Angeles Times: McCain facing toughest reelection battle in two decades

Who shares your values? McCain v. Hayworth

Top 10 reasons conservatives dislike McCain

McCain and Keating: 'Till Death Do Us Part'

Top 10 Reasons Conservatives Dislike McCain

McCain supporter leaves despicable comment insulting blue-collar workers

Right Wing News interview with JD Hayworth asks all the tough questions

Protest in Tucson against Sarah Palin campaigning for McCain gaining momentum

Prominent McCain endorser Grover Norquist funneled money from Abramoff

Joe the Plumber on collision course with McCain-Palin

Bad News for McCain campaign: National anti-illegal immigration group now raising money for JD Hayworth

McCain attacks Hayworth for voting for border security bill

McCain's millions buy typically misleading Washington ad

JD Hayworth trounces MSNBC's liberal Rachel Maddow

Tea Partiers produce powerful video for JD Hayworth

Tea Party movement finds McCain its least-liked Republican

New facebook group: John McCain Farewell Tour 2010

Even liberal AZ Republic slams McCain over flip-flopping

McCain claims amnesia then flip-flops on bill he proposed with Democrat

Arizona Vets for JD Hayworth

New Ad asks, "What has McCain done for Arizona?" Nothing

Border Patrol Council endorses JD Hayworth

Hayworth Opposes McCain's Anti-Small Business Legislation

Looks like Glenn Beck is endorsing JD Hayworth over McCain

McCain's false "birther" attacks on Hayworth

Tax Day Tea Party endorses Hayworth

McCain calls open borders opponents Nazis

Video of Mark Levin explaining his endorsement of Hayworth

JD Hayworth: Sole conservative candidate for US Senate

Major endorsement: Gun Owners of America endorses Hayworth

With Hayworth, has McCain met his Waterloo

John McCain's TARP claim cowardly

Los Angeles Times compares Hayworth-McCain race to Rubio-Crist race

Major immigration group endorses Hayworth

McCain blames everyone else except himself for voting for TARP pork bailouts

Hayworth endorsed by Phoenix Law Enforcement Union

Conservative Radio Show Host Rush Limbaugh Breaks Down McCain’s “Rhino-Republican” Tactics Against U.S. Senate Candidate J.D. Hayworth

McCain's endorsements? Hardly

McCain criticizes Hayworth for voting for funding "Snakes in Guam" - yet voted for them himself

Meghan McCain opposing traditional marriage on Twitter

Joe the Plumber goes off on McCain, said he "screwed up my life"

Why JD Hayworth will beat McCain for US Senate

Letter to Sarah Palin from a Maricopa County Republican Officer

Senator Jim DeMint's Senate Conservative Fund backs conservative candidates - but not McCain

McCain refused to sign Grover Norquist's anti-tax pledge

Dick Armey's FreedomWorks clarification: He did not endorse McCain

McCain flip-flops on cap and trade, global warming

Don Goldwater urges support for JD Hayworth

Sheriff Joe Arpaio launches national fundraising appeal for JD Hayworth

Meghan McCain blasts Tea Party movement, Palin on The View

Graph contrasts Hayworth's consistent conservative record with McCain's sporadic spiraling record

Treasury Secretary Paulson calls out McCain's financial crisis bluff in new book

JD Hayworth: Why I will Challenge John McCain

Wall Street Journal: McCain "facing a surprisingly strong primary challenge from the right"

John Kerry McCain? AZ Senator flip-flops on "Don't Ask Don't Tell" Ask him then, Ask him now, Two different answers

Joseph Farah of WorldNetDaily predicts Hayworth will beat McCain for US Senate

Arguments I never expected: Hayworth is no more conservative than McCain

McCain drain on taxpayers: 2007 Amnesty Plan would have cost taxpayers $2.6 Trillion (Heritage Foundation)

McCain approval ratings drop to Keating-Five levels

McCain straight derailed: Taxpayer group ranks Hayworth better on spending

Cindy McCain and gay marriage

JD Hayworth tied with McCain in Senate race poll - and he hasn't even entered the race yet





Interview with JD Hayworth Interview with Shane Wikfors from SonoranAlliance.com

Dirty politicking hits CD5 race with new push-poll

Authors of SB1070, Pearce and Kavanagh, endorse David Schweikert

Schweikert suggests issues for Harry Mitchell's campaign webpage which simply reads "Issues Coming..."

Ward campaign clarifies TV ad featuring Ward’s former Treasurer supporting McCain

New McCain ad features woman who chooses Dem. Harry Mitchell over JD Hayworth

Schweikert fundraiser last night an amazing event; raises over $10,000

Cutest campaign picture yet

Schweikert one of few candidates abiding by sign laws

Schweikert to Harry Mitchell: "You're Fired!"

Cleaning up Harry Mitchell's Dirty Laundry">

Friday the 13th Trillion

Yorkies for Schweikert!

Shih Tzu's for Schweikert!

It's time to boycott Harry Mitchell!

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Rep. Harry Mitchell sending out taxpayer-funded mailers that look like campaign ads

We've beaten our goal of raising $10,000 online this week!

David Schweikert calls on Harry Mitchell to join him in supporting SB1070

David Schweikert discusses illegal immigration and anchor babies

Jim Ward breaks pledge not to play dirty in AZ CD5 race; runs push-poll

Schweikert finishes quarter with highest cash on hand

Susan Bitter Smith falsely implies that Arpaio has endorsed her - AGAIN!

Join David Schweikert on May 4th for a fun evening of Dessert Deserts with gourmet chef Jan D'Atri, KFYI's Barry Young and Cruella Michella Buffy Lee Larson

David Schweikert is first Congressional candidate in AZ to turn in signature petitions

Arpaio issues statement: Has NOT endorsed Susan Bitter Smith

http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/04/17/why-is-liberal-republican-susan-bitter-smith-running-for-congress-again/

April 15 has been redefined

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Ever wonder why liberal Democrat Congressman Harry Mitchell voted for the Healthcare takeover?

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Concerned Women PAC endorses David Schweikert

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Harry Mitchell voted for Obamacare

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Harry Mitchell's State of the District Address AKA an Excuse for Doing Nothing

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Do We Have a Right to Hate?

 The government definitely has no legitimate role prohibiting hate, real or imagined.

Former NBA star Tim Hardaway made waves on the airwaves recently by remarking that he hated homosexuals.  It became the story du jour the following day, prompting the obligatory posturing and feigned outrage.  Pundit Bill O’Reilly said (I’m paraphrasing), “We can’t have this in America,” although at least he was sincere.

Now, I know we should hate the sin but not the sinner, so far be it from me to advocate hatred for anyone (his actions and beliefs are a different matter).  But given the West’s increasing embrace of hate crime/hate speech laws, we need to ask ourselves a question.  Do we have a right to hate?

The Shill Media won’t discuss it, but the aforementioned laws are metastasizing in the supposedly free countries of the West.  I’ve often written about the case of Mark Harding, a Canadian pastor punished for criticizing Islam.  But such examples abound; Bob Unruh writes at WorldNetDaily.com,

Two Christians in Australia have been indicted for criticizing Islam, and another for criticizing Zionism. A filmmaker has been threatened with arrest for using the word ‘homosexual’ rather than ‘gay.’ Now a German priest faces jail time for publicly criticizing abortionists, and in Holland, ‘fornicators’ and ‘adulterers’ are protected classes and cannot be criticized.

And just in case you think it can’t happen here in the US, I’ll point out that on October 10, 2004, eleven Christians were arrested in Philadelphia for criticizing homosexuality.  They were arrested under a Pennsylvania hate crime law, which, ominously, is almost identical to one (H.R. 254) going through Congress at this very moment.

Now, I must point out that it’s unlikely the individuals in the above cases were motivated by hate, unless it’s hate of certain behaviors or beliefs.  Yet, the law has prosecuted them under hate laws, Orwellian legislation predicated on the notion that the government belongs in the hate business.  So I ask again, do we have a right to hate?

In terms of moral rights, the answer is no.  For that matter, however, we have no moral right to embrace or indulge any evil idea or tendency.  This includes not just wrath but the rest of the Seven Deadly Sins as well: Lust, pride, greed, envy, sloth and gluttony.  But the issue here isn’t one of moral rights, but legal ones.

If I were as shallow as some of my critics, I’d now rail against “legislating morality,” but I know better.  A law by definition is the imposition of morality, as it prescribes or proscribes something based on the idea that it is, respectively, a moral imperative or morally wrong or a corollary of that which is so.  If this isn’t the case, why create the law?  It would make no sense to outlaw that which isn’t bad or mandate that which isn’t good.  Thus, those who dislike such intrusion need to be heedful: To have government legislate morality as little as possible means to have it legislate as little as possible, which is why it needs to be as small as possible.

The government definitely has no legitimate role prohibiting hate, real or imagined.  And here I think of radical Moslem groups like the Taliban, which are condemned for enforcing laws based on a different deadly sin.  When Moslems punish those who indulge in lust (note: Lust is “disordered sexual desire”), they sometimes stone adulterers or homosexuals.  Their medieval penalties are most disproportionate and I’m the last one who would want to live under the iron burka.  Having said that, in certain respects they are morally superior to our Thought Police.

Insofar as the above goes, what the Moslems proscribe actually is wrong, whereas the Thought Police often punish those who criticize what is wrong.  Put differently, the Moslems do actually target lustful acts but, while the Thought Police claim to want to eliminate hate, their true focus is eliminating expression that refutes their agenda.  Thus, the latter are far more contemptible in their deceit and sanctimony.

Their dishonesty is evidenced in double standards that would inflame the electorate if the Shill Media actually brought them to light.  While Pastor Harding was hauled into court for criticizing Islam, the true hatred expressed by Moslems outside who chanted, “Infidels, you will burn in Hell” was met with the sanction of government silence. 

This is par for the course.  When did you last see someone punished for criticizing Christianity, whites or those with normal sexual desires?  Why do you think so-called hate crimes perpetrated by a member of these groups becomes front page news while one perpetrated against them is swept under the rug?  Hate laws are used as a hammer to silence politically incorrect dissent and persecute those not enjoying victim-group status.  Hate laws have nothing to do with opposition to hate and everything to do with hating opposition.

Thus, another question should be, do we have a right to hate whom we wish?  Governments are more and more the arbiter of who and what can be hated and, in fact, play God as they would have us accept that hate is whatever they deem it to be.  This is why I recoil at any intimation that people have no legal right to hate.  The Tim Hardaways of the world have every right to hate whom they wish, and, too, you have a right to scorn and ostracize them for it.  But he who implies we have no right to voice our beliefs is the most contemptible of haters: A hater of liberty.

A big part of our problem is that people tend to be as blind to hang-ups collectively as they are individually.  Just as Moslem Wahhabis may believe infidels are the bane of humanity and that any means to subjugate them is justified, we have hate on the brain.  Wrath is merely one of the Seven Deadly Sins, not the be-all and end-all.  We have become errant radicals, much like the Shakers, who taught that all copulation was a sin, even that within marriage.  The only difference is that we focus our tunnel-vision elsewhere.
   
Personally, even where real hate is concerned, I’d much rather have it expressed and know where people stand than see it bottled up, simmering beneath the surface, perhaps only becoming evident when it explodes in a fit of violence.  It’s ironic, the irreligious Left would call the Shakers sexually repressed.  Yet, the same set wants to create repressed haters.
      
Getting back to moral rights, one the government does not enjoy is the moral right to remove the legal right to make moral pronouncements.  Governments have long done this, such as that of Korea and China, which imprison dissidents.  And we would do well to remember that if we walk the same path, silencing those who disagree with the prevailing ideology, we will have no moral capital with which to condemn them.  They will simply be the man in the mirror.

We have every right to hate.  In fact, I’m starting to hate the government with a passion.  And that’s a hatred we should indulge without temperance.

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11 comments to Do We Have a Right to Hate?

  • sedonaman

    So, can the American Nazi Party still parade through a Jewish neighborhood?

  • Katzen

    Sedonaman,

    Yes. Should it not be able to?

  • Dean

    how about parade through a muslim neighborhood?

  • Mountain Man

    There are laws that consider the emotional state of the perpetrator, like aggravated assault, for example. I do not necessarily find it troublesome that some laws contemplate emotional status.

    What I do take issue with is laws that pinpoint an emotional state based on political orientation. If it is wrong to disagree with gays, it also must be wrong to disagree with straights. In essence, then, the government would be obligated to tell everyone that they must be nice to everyone else under penalty of law. The criteria is, of course, how the aggrieved party "feels."

    Government has the constitutional authority to do this? The Founders must be turning over in their graves.

  • nevadamistermom

    Selwyn Duke has published several articles on this topic and they make an important point; namely, that the idea of "hate crimes" puts us on a slippery slope that will eventually rob us of freedom of speech as we weigh people's actions in light of what is "politically correct" at any given moment, rather than simply what is legal/illegal.

    Obviously the "right" to do something isn't equivalent to condoning it. Although I don't condone in any fashion the KKK, they have the right to express their views publically and march through the projects of Detroit or Chicago should they have a hankering for severe bodily injury or death. The Nazis likewise have a right to parade through a Jewish neighborhood. Muslims have a right to parade through christian neighborhoods and vice-versa. War protesters have a right to picket outside military funerals.

    I remain a firm believer that we should punish people for actions, not thoughts. The idea of adding some type of punishment factor on top of murder charges because it was done in "hate" opens up a Pandora's Box. What about the abusive husband who kills his wife? Should his punishment be less severe than if we could somehow categorically show that he harbored hatred against all females – not just his wife? The only distinction that should be made in my opinion is between intentional and unintentional – manslaughter versus murder. Other crimes can vary in severity and the punishment can be meted out accordingly, but trying to ascertain the degree of "hate" that motivated a crime and punishing based on the ideology one holds is very dangerous. This is why the Bible has one punishment for murder, not dozens based on "severity" "ideology" and "motive."

    Duke has already given examples in other columns of the extremes to which these hate crime laws will be taken, abridging freedom of speech. Pastors are already being prosecuted in Canada and Sweden for speaking out against things they consider to be sexual perversion (homosexuality) and with our increasing fascination as a nation with becoming part of the "global community" in terms of laws and morals, it won't be long before we see such situations arise with our own hate crime laws.

    It isn't a stretch to imagine any of the following eventually:

    - Those who vocally criticize global warming hype will be accused of hating science and hating the earth. If they break the law in a protest, they would be punished more severely than, say, an anti-war protester.

    - Those who oppose affirmative action will be accused of racial hatred. Let's say they deny a job or college placement to someone who they genuninely believe to be lesser qualified than other applicants. They are sued and they lose. The damages become greater and more punitive because an attorney shows the motive was "hate."

    - Those who oppose abortion will be accused of hating women. If they break the law in one of their protests, they would be punished more severely than, say, an anti-war protester who was "hating the right things" (i.e., hating war).

  • sedonaman

    "Katzen", et al:

    "Should it (the American Nazi Party) not be able to (parade through a Jewish neighborhood)?"

    According to the apparent logic of the proponents of hate speech laws, they wouldn't. The courts have held that a demonstration, parade, etc. are a type of speech. However, a hate speech law would render the parade illegal. No?

  • sedonaman

    "nevadamistermom":

    It isn’t a stretch to imagine the installation of a camera in every room in the country to enforce such laws.

  • nevadamistermom

    Sedonaman,

    I don't know if there are "hate speech" laws on the book in this country yet, but it seems like their are those who are actively pressing for such censorship. Even without "hate speech" laws, the general idea of "hate crimes" basically establishes a link between what one thinks/says and what one does that creates a very, very slippery slope.

    At present, however, I'm not aware that there are laws banning "hate speech" – only "hate actions."

    Mountain Man pointed out quite rightly that the emotional state of a perpetrator can have a bearing on the punishment, such as "aggravated" assault. But this is different than the concept of "hate crime." I see no reason to need to make certain actions more "heinous" because they were done purely out of spite or hate. It makes little difference to the victim if he/she was randomly singled out for a mugging because they were simply carrying money on their person, or if they were singled out because of their ethnicity/beliefs. They still carry the same broken bones and bruises. They still lie in the same grave.

  • Katzen

    Sedonaman,

    I misinterpreted your first post as ironically lamenting the Nazis' current freedom. Yes, a hate speech law may indeed render the parade illegal.

  • Frank

    There's a parallel between preemptive strikes and laws against thought crimes in that both seek to preempt attacks. This is what we get after embracing the Iraq War…

    I'm all for banning porn and drugs at local gas stations and prostitution on the streets. However, thought crimes are not a traditional way of legislating morality.

    I dunno the arguments behind allowing Nazis to parade, but I wouldn't want anyone parading in my neighborhood. Can't they express their views in some other fashion?

  • detn8or69

    With all the obvious intelligence written here, can noone see the big picture. Liberals are using "GAY" rights as the tool to destroy the institution of religion in the United States. They are going to do this in two parts. Their first goal is get the same minority status for homosexuals ( a sexual preferance), that exist for blacks and hispanics. This is going to protect them under affirmitive action. Then they will use existing "Hate Crimes" legislation to show that religious leaders (pastors, ministers, etc.) are discriminating against a protected minority. Heaven forbid they would ever get a "Hate Speach" law on the books. Hopefully you can see where I'm going with this.

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