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		<title>By: dwlawson</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/03/16/second-amendment-used-to-dump-gun-law/comment-page-1/#comment-38777</link>
		<dc:creator>dwlawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually you can&#039;t make an argument of the primacy of the 1st versus the 2nd because the 1st was first.  Originally the 1st was the 3rd and the 2nd was the 4th.  The original 1st proposed was regarding modifying the number of House Representatives and the original 2nd was regarding Congressional compensation.

However, I argue that the 2nd has primacy over the 1st.  Its language seems more emphatic to me.  The 1st reads &quot;Congress shall pass no law...&quot;  This would seem to limit the prohibition to violation to Congress only.  The 2nd is much broader in scope and does not limit the prohibition to violation to anyone.

In my opinion, the 2nd not only recognizes the basic right to keep and bear arms, but it also commands the federal government to protect that right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually you can&#039;t make an argument of the primacy of the 1st versus the 2nd because the 1st was first.  Originally the 1st was the 3rd and the 2nd was the 4th.  The original 1st proposed was regarding modifying the number of House Representatives and the original 2nd was regarding Congressional compensation.</p>
<p>However, I argue that the 2nd has primacy over the 1st.  Its language seems more emphatic to me.  The 1st reads &#034;Congress shall pass no law&#8230;&#034;  This would seem to limit the prohibition to violation to Congress only.  The 2nd is much broader in scope and does not limit the prohibition to violation to anyone.</p>
<p>In my opinion, the 2nd not only recognizes the basic right to keep and bear arms, but it also commands the federal government to protect that right.</p>
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		<title>By: A &#38; O</title>
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		<dc:creator>A &#38; O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 07:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May be that I&#039;m wrong, but as far as I know, the Militia Act of 1792 is still in force today. This country of ours appears to be living/existing in a strong delusion. How else can it be explained that elected oath takers can be getting away with treason. Seems to me that the left (Republicans included) should be thankful that the Patriots in this land have not exercised the true meaning of the 2nd Amendment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May be that I&#039;m wrong, but as far as I know, the Militia Act of 1792 is still in force today. This country of ours appears to be living/existing in a strong delusion. How else can it be explained that elected oath takers can be getting away with treason. Seems to me that the left (Republicans included) should be thankful that the Patriots in this land have not exercised the true meaning of the 2nd Amendment.</p>
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		<title>By: Asmodeus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asmodeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actually surprised it wasn&#039;t overturned sooner. Stated as such:

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

A militia at the time was any able bodied man. In this age, it means any able bodied person 18 or over (I would imagine). The next portion of the sentence is very clear and unambiguous that it being necessary to the security of the state. I don&#039;t remember at any time when the government finally said, it&#039;s okay, we have your security in hand. However, if you connect any able bodied person being necessary to the security of a free state, then it is quite clear, in fact that the 2nd Amendment is nearly absolute, if not already.

The right of the &#039;People&#039; to keep and bear arms is simply a bulwark against intrusion to the first definition of &#039;militia&#039; and &#039;being necessary to the security of a free state&#039;. They are in effect inseparable. You cannot legislate, with rationality, the 2nd Amendment away. Also, any municipality, in this case, Washington, D.C. that seeks to subvert, squash, eradicate, or diminish the 2nd Amendment, also runs the high risk of losing their 1st Amendment rights. What is the point of a 1st Amendment if the 2nd can&#039;t protect it? The 1st Amendment was specifically chosen to be the first for a reason, but without the 2nd, you cannot foundationaly protect the 1st and in essence protect our ability to exercise the 1st.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m actually surprised it wasn&#039;t overturned sooner. Stated as such:</p>
<p>“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”</p>
<p>A militia at the time was any able bodied man. In this age, it means any able bodied person 18 or over (I would imagine). The next portion of the sentence is very clear and unambiguous that it being necessary to the security of the state. I don&#039;t remember at any time when the government finally said, it&#039;s okay, we have your security in hand. However, if you connect any able bodied person being necessary to the security of a free state, then it is quite clear, in fact that the 2nd Amendment is nearly absolute, if not already.</p>
<p>The right of the &#039;People&#039; to keep and bear arms is simply a bulwark against intrusion to the first definition of &#039;militia&#039; and &#039;being necessary to the security of a free state&#039;. They are in effect inseparable. You cannot legislate, with rationality, the 2nd Amendment away. Also, any municipality, in this case, Washington, D.C. that seeks to subvert, squash, eradicate, or diminish the 2nd Amendment, also runs the high risk of losing their 1st Amendment rights. What is the point of a 1st Amendment if the 2nd can&#039;t protect it? The 1st Amendment was specifically chosen to be the first for a reason, but without the 2nd, you cannot foundationaly protect the 1st and in essence protect our ability to exercise the 1st.</p>
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		<title>By: NHGrouch</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/03/16/second-amendment-used-to-dump-gun-law/comment-page-1/#comment-38694</link>
		<dc:creator>NHGrouch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good review of the the court decision.  I believe it touched the proper basis of the courts reasoning.  One can only hope that the US Supreme Ct., which will probably get the case on appeal, will sustain the decision.

The loss of rights has been encroaching upon us for several decades.  It has slowly moved us towards a totalitarian government by increments, and unless this trend is reversed I fear it doen&#039;t bode well for the citizens who will become merely subjects and serfs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good review of the the court decision.  I believe it touched the proper basis of the courts reasoning.  One can only hope that the US Supreme Ct., which will probably get the case on appeal, will sustain the decision.</p>
<p>The loss of rights has been encroaching upon us for several decades.  It has slowly moved us towards a totalitarian government by increments, and unless this trend is reversed I fear it doen&#039;t bode well for the citizens who will become merely subjects and serfs.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mountain Man:

Some sources say the two can be used interchangeably, while others take your side in the matter. We appreciate your efforts to &lt;i&gt;ensure&lt;/i&gt; proper word choice on the site.

http://www.grammarmudge.cityslide.com/articles/article/992333/8556.htm
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mountain Man:</p>
<p>Some sources say the two can be used interchangeably, while others take your side in the matter. We appreciate your efforts to <i>ensure</i> proper word choice on the site.</p>
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		<title>By: Mountain Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good analysis. 

One little irritation that gets my goat every time:  &quot;...conducted to insure that individuals were keeping, and thus able to bear, arms.&quot; The correct word is &quot;ensure.&quot;

I know, I know. But correct word usage is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good analysis. </p>
<p>One little irritation that gets my goat every time:  &#034;&#8230;conducted to insure that individuals were keeping, and thus able to bear, arms.&#034; The correct word is &#034;ensure.&#034;</p>
<p>I know, I know. But correct word usage is important.</p>
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