Comments on: Why The Palestinians Cannot Govern Themselves http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/ Conservative and Libertarian Intellectual Philosophy and Politics Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:00:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: fbaginski http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/comment-page-2/#comment-52700 fbaginski Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:29:22 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/#comment-52700 I liked the article. Some of the post have a lot to be desired though. With all of the money that has poured into the palestinians they should have a wonderful country with the best medical, education, and human services around. Sadly they bought weapons with the money. Their choice not mine. The world now has a choice on how to deal with them. Further support makes no sense. I think things have to get so bad that they are forced to think of their survival instead of killing their neighbors. This will of course make for a great photo opportunity for the left. The world needs to turn their back to the palestinians just as they have turned their back on humanity. This is so sad. I pray for them but can't support them. I liked the article. Some of the post have a lot to be desired though.

With all of the money that has poured into the palestinians they should have a wonderful country with the best medical, education, and human services around. Sadly they bought weapons with the money. Their choice not mine. The world now has a choice on how to deal with them. Further support makes no sense. I think things have to get so bad that they are forced to think of their survival instead of killing their neighbors. This will of course make for a great photo opportunity for the left. The world needs to turn their back to the palestinians just as they have turned their back on humanity.

This is so sad. I pray for them but can’t support them.

]]> By: menachembenyakov http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/comment-page-2/#comment-52511 menachembenyakov Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:37:22 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/#comment-52511 Ah yes. Those lovely Palestinians ..... http://pmw.org.il/bulletins_jun2007.htm#b190607 Ah yes. Those lovely Palestinians …..

http://pmw.org.il/bulletins_jun2007.htm#b190607

]]> By: Phillip Ellis Jackson http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/comment-page-2/#comment-52505 Phillip Ellis Jackson Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:59:46 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/#comment-52505 Well said Nick, but I suspect it will be lost on a man who thinks that a political moderate is a philosophical conservative and lets his reasoning flow from there. For a guy who says he's going away, he seems to have trouble finding the door. Well said Nick, but I suspect it will be lost on a man who thinks that a political moderate is a philosophical conservative and lets his reasoning flow from there.

For a guy who says he’s going away, he seems to have trouble finding the door.

]]> By: nick adams http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/comment-page-2/#comment-52504 nick adams Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:44:22 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/#comment-52504 Alex You summed it up best when you wrote: "Well, I’ve said everything I had to say. Ranting more won’t wake (sic) my argument any stronger." Post #5, June 15, 2007. You know, you were absolutely right. It never did get any stronger. It's been fun/funny. Alex
You summed it up best when you wrote: “Well, I’ve said everything I had to say. Ranting more won’t wake (sic) my argument any stronger.” Post #5, June 15, 2007.

You know, you were absolutely right. It never did get any stronger.

It’s been fun/funny.

]]> By: alexkreuz http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/comment-page-2/#comment-52502 alexkreuz Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:23:32 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/#comment-52502 "In this case, Rudy Giuliani is as acceptable to me as the Party’s nominee as Mitt Romney, John McCain, or Fred Thompson." -- Phillip Ellis Jackson I'm sorry I had to throw one more in. I couldn't resist myself. McCain is more liberal than 43% of senators. That means he is <b>43 of 49 among republicans</b>. He is more liberal than Chuck. And I guarantee Rudy is more liberal than McCain. And you call me a liberal? You call Chuck Hagel a liberal? And you'd vote for McCain or Guliani? You have thrown conservatism out of the window in favor of strong foreign interventionism. Anyways haze away, I have everything out of my system now. “In this case, Rudy Giuliani is as acceptable to me as the Party’s nominee as Mitt Romney, John McCain, or Fred Thompson.”

– Phillip Ellis Jackson

I’m sorry I had to throw one more in. I couldn’t resist myself.

McCain is more liberal than 43% of senators. That means he is 43 of 49 among republicans. He is more liberal than Chuck. And I guarantee Rudy is more liberal than McCain. And you call me a liberal? You call Chuck Hagel a liberal? And you’d vote for McCain or Guliani?

You have thrown conservatism out of the window in favor of strong foreign interventionism.

Anyways haze away, I have everything out of my system now.

]]> By: alexkreuz http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/comment-page-2/#comment-52501 alexkreuz Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:09:41 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/#comment-52501 "You identified Hagel as a conservative of the same degree/commitment as Ron Paul. Going to the link you provided, there are 28 US Senators MORE CONSERVATIVE than Hagel" Oh and for your information. Ron Paul is MORE liberal than Chuck Hagel. Ron Paul has a liberal rating of 61%. He's more liberal than *gasp* 61% of the house members. I guess that makes Chuck Hagel MORE CONSERVATIVE. But I guess according to you guys, Ron Paul is a liberal anyway, so my argument is just foolish. Anyways, lets let this page die. 80+ off topic comments is too much recognition for a silly article such as this one. “You identified Hagel as a conservative of the same degree/commitment as Ron Paul. Going to the link you provided, there are 28 US Senators MORE CONSERVATIVE than Hagel”

Oh and for your information. Ron Paul is MORE liberal than Chuck Hagel. Ron Paul has a liberal rating of 61%. He’s more liberal than *gasp* 61% of the house members. I guess that makes Chuck Hagel MORE CONSERVATIVE.

But I guess according to you guys, Ron Paul is a liberal anyway, so my argument is just foolish.

Anyways, lets let this page die. 80+ off topic comments is too much recognition for a silly article such as this one.

]]> By: alexkreuz http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/comment-page-2/#comment-52497 alexkreuz Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:58:16 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/#comment-52497 "but you want us all to believe that Chuck is the epitome of modern day conservatism" No i believe it was you who equated him to Ronald Reagan. Being #29 of 49 is still considerably right of center. But with reasoning like yours its no wonder that republicans all over the spectrum are leaving the party. I won't continue since I don't even know what we are debating at this point anymore. "by the way, you’ll notice that no one uses lol or any cute smiley faces on this website, unless of course we’re just making fun of you" Thats funny because thats the only time I use LOL and :D myself. When I'm making fun of plain ignorance. “but you want us all to believe that Chuck is the epitome of modern day conservatism”

No i believe it was you who equated him to Ronald Reagan. Being #29 of 49 is still considerably right of center. But with reasoning like yours its no wonder that republicans all over the spectrum are leaving the party.

I won’t continue since I don’t even know what we are debating at this point anymore.

“by the way, you’ll notice that no one uses lol or any cute smiley faces on this website, unless of course we’re just making fun of you”

Thats funny because thats the only time I use LOL and :D myself. When I’m making fun of plain ignorance.

]]> By: Phillip Ellis Jackson http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/comment-page-2/#comment-52496 Phillip Ellis Jackson Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:48:21 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/#comment-52496 Alex: We all understand that complex reasoning is a skill you lack. You identified Hagel as a conservative of the same degree/commitment as Ron Paul. Going to the link you provided, there are 28 US Senators MORE CONSERVATIVE than Hagel. That makes Hagel #29 in the US Senate, but even more significantly, it makes him #29 out of 49 in HIS OWN PARTY! Hagel scores 28 on the liberal scale, DeMint scores 7.5, but you want us all to believe that Chuck is the epitome of modern day conservatism It’s a small point, and like most of the topics you bring up not relevant to the main discussion, but it’s just another indicator that you just make up a lot of what you say. Your “analysis” consists of quoting from Hagel’s own website to prove his ultra “conservative” voting record, citing Reuters as an impartial source on the Middle East, and going back to your very first comment, make silly comparisons like “I will rebut your quote of ‘Clearly, the Palestinians prefer death’ with a quote from the state of New Hampshire; a state that is considered to be very American, very Patriotic, and very able to govern themselves. The quote is ‘Live free or die.’” Not only is this a-historical and nonsensical, half the time no one can figure out what you are saying because you wander all over the place. To prove a point you insist there were 2 years between Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza and the beginning of the Gaza civil war. When I show you there were 8 months, you simply say that proves your point anyway. This is a juvenile, moronic way of debating an issue. You throw around words like you know what they mean when all you are really doing is pushing a political agenda, not engaging in a real debate. So in the words of Vinny Gambini, “I’m tru wit dis guy.” Oh, and by the way, you’ll notice that no one uses lol or any cute smiley faces on this website, unless of course we’re just making fun of you for not being bright enough to figure out this isn’t the Daily Kos. Alex: We all understand that complex reasoning is a skill you lack. You identified Hagel as a conservative of the same degree/commitment as Ron Paul. Going to the link you provided, there are 28 US Senators MORE CONSERVATIVE than Hagel. That makes Hagel #29 in the US Senate, but even more significantly, it makes him #29 out of 49 in HIS OWN PARTY! Hagel scores 28 on the liberal scale, DeMint scores 7.5, but you want us all to believe that Chuck is the epitome of modern day conservatism

It’s a small point, and like most of the topics you bring up not relevant to the main discussion, but it’s just another indicator that you just make up a lot of what you say. Your “analysis” consists of quoting from Hagel’s own website to prove his ultra “conservative” voting record, citing Reuters as an impartial source on the Middle East, and going back to your very first comment, make silly comparisons like “I will rebut your quote of ‘Clearly, the Palestinians prefer death’ with a quote from the state of New Hampshire; a state that is considered to be very American, very Patriotic, and very able to govern themselves. The quote is ‘Live free or die.’”

Not only is this a-historical and nonsensical, half the time no one can figure out what you are saying because you wander all over the place. To prove a point you insist there were 2 years between Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza and the beginning of the Gaza civil war. When I show you there were 8 months, you simply say that proves your point anyway. This is a juvenile, moronic way of debating an issue. You throw around words like you know what they mean when all you are really doing is pushing a political agenda, not engaging in a real debate. So in the words of Vinny Gambini, “I’m tru wit dis guy.”

Oh, and by the way, you’ll notice that no one uses lol or any cute smiley faces on this website, unless of course we’re just making fun of you for not being bright enough to figure out this isn’t the Daily Kos.

]]> By: alexkreuz http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/comment-page-2/#comment-52495 alexkreuz Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:42:59 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/#comment-52495 http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib.htm?o1=lib_composite&o2=desc#vr More liberal than 28% of senators in 2006. Doesn't that also mean he is more conservative than 72% of all senators? That makes him a liberal? LOL You guys are hilarious http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib.htm?o1=lib_composite&o2=desc#vr

More liberal than 28% of senators in 2006.

Doesn’t that also mean he is more conservative than 72% of all senators? That makes him a liberal?

LOL

You guys are hilarious

]]> By: alexkreuz http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/comment-page-2/#comment-52494 alexkreuz Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:23:16 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/06/14/why-the-palestinians-cannot-govern-themselves/#comment-52494 Phillip, Can you link me directly to that publican. I can't seem to find it on the site. 2005. Would that happen to be the same year when the Republicans were kissing Bush's ass? I wonder if that study considers voting for the Patriot Act as conservative. Im curious to see if I can cross reference the Senators who were "more" conservative than Hagel with the Senators who support Bush's amnesty bill and see what I can come up with. Oh thats right, I had my road map all along. But I never got a memo that you all tossed yours out and replaced it with the nonconservative pro-amnesty road map. Phillip,

Can you link me directly to that publican. I can’t seem to find it on the site.

2005. Would that happen to be the same year when the Republicans were kissing Bush’s ass? I wonder if that study considers voting for the Patriot Act as conservative. Im curious to see if I can cross reference the Senators who were “more” conservative than Hagel with the Senators who support Bush’s amnesty bill and see what I can come up with.

Oh thats right, I had my road map all along. But I never got a memo that you all tossed yours out and replaced it with the nonconservative pro-amnesty road map.

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