Comments on: Katie Couric: Profile of Female Privilege

By: whit1981

whit1981 — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:12:04 +0000

What an outstanding review Bernard. It is so refreshing to find people who see female privilege as a blatant disregard of reality. It is so obvious in today’s world that women seem to believe that employers and others in life exists to serve their every fanciful whim. While women may be “driven” they are never under the threat that man is. Throughout history that imbalance was perfected because men risked alot for women. Now men risk a lot for nothing. But no woman is as privileged, obnoxious, rude, and egotistical as the modern American woman. Meanwhile boys in public schools are being left in the dust whilst girls are being given every possible educational advantage. Women commit horrible wrongs to society and we give them self-esteem training while we send men to hard core prisons. Girl’s outlandish behavior, caused by pampering at a familial as well as a societal level, is being dismissed or accepted. When women place themselves in compromising situations the problem that arises is never due to any part they played at all (that is sexism don’t you know) but rather due to evil men who prowl dark alleys. Women teachers that molest boys in schools write books and talk about how their dads didn’t buy them a fararri when they were 16. It is coming to a head with the privilege bestowed upon the princesses of our modern age. Women expect every advantage without ever feeling as if they are accountable to anyone. It is sad. Finally, when G makes her comments about how “making sandwiches and pouring coffee is something a man would never do” tells one all they need to know about the absurd beliefs that women are taught. It should go without even saying that most all of us (men) who have had a college job or a job right out of college did mundane tasks all the time while making a buck. Note to women: not everybody in life is entitled to be a billionaire CEO who stars in movies and wears high end fashion while walking around New York with bug eyeglasses on and an attitude to match. Get over your selves. Nice work Bernard! It is so refreshing to see a man finally speak the flippin truth. Granted, all of us men put up with this to some extent because we have moms and sisters. But most of you my age (26) and older should be realizing that most women these days aren’t like our moms. We also put up with going to prison and paying million dollar tort judgments for hurting woman’s self-esteem because we like having sex with women. But it is important to stand up to these women who think that life owes them everything. Watch TV and see the messages that women get; they are destined to have everything whether it be money, cars, houses, movie star boyfriends and birth control. I am in law school and every single sad day I see all the women’s laptops up (these are 3rd year law students) with images of celebrities on them. Almost without fail most women are obsessed with glamor and fame and celebritydom. But unlike women of yesteryear today’s woman wants none of the burden of being a wife and mom but all of the advantages of being a glorified hooker. In fact that’s what most celebrity women are, glorified hookers. Enough said.

By: WolvenBear

WolvenBear — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 03:16:03 +0000

Whenever confronted with truth, it is always the last sanctuary of the liberal to claim their opponent is biased…or evil.

So, G, you started with an assinine statement…were quickly proved wrong, and now are sulking by calling everyone who argued you down liars.

Classy.

By: gz9gjg

gz9gjg — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 01:16:31 +0000

Have fun with your studies, Bernard. I’m sure you can make the data show whatever you want, much like the claims of Al Gore and his ilk that “all scientists” agree that humans are causing global warming.

By: Bernard Chapin

Bernard Chapin — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 12:53:54 +0000

13. What about the alternative hypothesis for any disparity? That women don’t work as hard as men. PC means we can never consider this but if we cared about the truth they we would…and should. It’s possible but not probable.
14. Another alternative hypothesis, who spends more time gossiping and talking at work, the man or the woman? Let’s explore it and see. Let’s do studies and find out. ARe women more likely to see work as a social outlet? If so, they’d make worse employees. Let’s fight PC and explore the matter.

By: Bernard Chapin

Bernard Chapin — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 12:50:42 +0000

9. I don’t care what my coworkers are asked to do. I get paid regardless. That’s why men work…to survive. We have no one to leech off of and no other means of making it. That’s life. Women have been bestowed with privilege in America and don’t have to think of such things.
10. I don’t think KC is serious at all and neither does CBS who recognize her influence by paying her 15 million a year. She may be a lightweight but she’s an influential lightweight. One Katie Couric is more powerful than 1000 Bernard Chapin’s.
11. Women work less, are less likely to accept more hazardous work, and less likely to move for their jobs than are men. That’s a major factor in any pay differential. More men are in “at need” professions while fixed salary positions such as those in education are dominated by women. If they want more money select more lucrative careers should be the answer.
12. The more socialized the US becomes the less talent and skill matter in the workplace. Let’s all hope for more capitalism so talent can shine through.

By: Bernard Chapin

Bernard Chapin — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 12:45:02 +0000

Thanks for reading everybody. Let me answer this in the order they came.
1. I think Mrs. Couric is representative of the way in which women are privileged in America. In the workplace, common tasks such as making coffee or food have been deemed as “oppressive” by feminist ideologues. They are anything but that. When you are paid you labor, and paid time is not about what “you want to do.”
2. If women leave for multiple years to have children they should be paid less as they are less reliable employees.
3. I await a PC incorrect study of workplaces which will reveal the disportionate use of sick days by women in relation to men. That has been my experience, women generally take more time off than do men. Has that not been yours as well? This is a factor that should be considered when comparing gender performance.
4. The inequities have never been greater. Women in America have been infantilized by the government and think that hearing offending speech is a cause to recruit the authorities. It is not. If you hear something you don’t like you should tell the person you don’t like it but its never an excuse to quit working or sue your employer.
5. See the I. Thomas case from this week. 11.6 million in exchange for (supposedly) being insulted. A court would never rule in such a fashion for a man. It’s ludicrous.
6. Most men, nowadays, know to say nothing to a woman at work.
7. Regardless of a woman’s attractiveness, if she wears baggy clothes few comments would be made about her body parts. Try it and see.
8. Why would you chuckle? I’m a grad school educated man. I make coffee for people all the time. I work lunch duty and pick up the used lunch trays of kids all the time. Doing such things is part of being a worker. It’s not demeaning. My fulfillment comes in the form of a check.

By: Patrick Mulligan

Patrick Mulligan — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:52:20 +0000

“Economic equality” does not exist. Unless you live in a command economy, in which case everyone is equally impoverished. Guess what? Men aren’t all paid the same amount of money for the same work. Some male executives, who’ve risen to that position above countless women who deserved the job more, aren’t paid the same amount as their co-workers. Two doctors with the exact same degrees are not guaranteed to make the same amount of money, and usually don’t. Even those big, nasty, good ol’ boy CEO’s have pay disparities. People working the same job don’t necessarily get paid the same amount. People with the same qualifications don’t necessarily get the same jobs. That’s the brakes. The only difference is that men don’t get the privilege of blaming society for it.

By: WolvenBear

WolvenBear — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:30:30 +0000

Look, you used his quote to make the absurd claim that “inequity is higher than it’s ever been.” Given that women are allowed to vote, and they didn’t use to, among numerous other things that they now are more equal on, this claim is nonsensical. Where they are now more equal than they used to be, which you have to admit…the inequities by definition, CAN’T be worse than ever. And you sound foolish for saying it.

And the claim about economic equality falls flat too. Maternity time alone makes the differences obscure. Add to that that women tend to work less hours, spend more time with children, take other benefits over raises (such as a more flexible schedule), won’t take dangerous jobs (that pay more) as often as men, dislike heavy travel schedules, among various other factors, and the “pay difference” doesn’t exist. It’s really that simple.

Katie Couric is the poster child for mocking this “gap”. She is the least qualified anchor out of the big three, runs the least interesting news show with the most amount of puff pieces, and gets the least viewers. Yet she gets the most pay. Hmmmmm.
And when given a basic gopher job (which tend to involve getting coffee and doing menial work), she complained that she was doing…menial work.
We look at firefighting, police and military jobs, and see similar things. A firefighter should be able to carry a person down the stairs. This physical requirement is relaxed for women. Policewomen are not bound by the physical conditions their male counterparts are, despite being in a job where physical restraint of a belligerant is often necessary. Etc.
Look also at sexual harassment laws, which no longer even require a complaintant to show harm done (firing), but just that she’s uncomfortable. That a woman can overhear a dirty joke and cry “sexual harassment” is a huge disadvantage to men.

By: gz9gjg

gz9gjg — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:49:50 +0000

Objectively, without accounting for time at work per week or the issue of women taking time off to raise children, women are paid less than men, generally less than 70% of men’s pay. Go look up the data.

Some studies claim that even when factoring for child-rearing time off, which presumably accounts for lesser seniority, womens’s pay is around 80% of men’s.

The pay disparity is somewhat hidden by claiming job descriptions are different, or that that the disparity is due to alleged individual performance differences, but the trends are clear. Look at the top management ranks of American companies: the percentage of women in upper management and board of director positions is far lower than 50%.

WolvenBear apparently thinks the only equality that matters is the right to vote.

The author of the article claimed “The inequities between the sexes have never been greater than they are today”, with the gist of the rest of the article that the author thinks women are more privileged than men, based on the example of Ms. Couric.

I find that claim to be ridiculous, considering documented disparities between men’s and women’s in pay and opportunities for advancement in many industries.

It is right and necessary that women have equal political rights; and I submit women should have equal economic rights also.

Let’s examine a hypothetical situation: Say a women is working at the same job as a man, performs it as well the man, and gets paid 80% of his pay, due to just having re-entered the workforce after taking several years off to tend to young children.

Do you think she is offered prices for car insurance, health care, rent, or mortgage rates that are only 80% of what the man is offered? No – she pays the same costs the man does. As a result, she has less ability to save for retirement, her children’s college expenses, etc. than the man does.

By: WolvenBear

WolvenBear — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:30:59 +0000

I can’t help but point to a single quote to show how little of a point G has…

“This one is especially amusing, because it is true in a way the author probably did not intend: “The inequities between the sexes have never been greater than they are today.””

Right, women are less equal today than before they could vote? That’s quite a leap of non-logic.