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	<title>Comments on: Global Warming Lies Create a Climate of Crisis</title>
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		<title>By: sedonaman</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/12/11/global-warming-lies-create-a-climate-of-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-66550</link>
		<dc:creator>sedonaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About a year ago, I stumbled across an article whose main point was that the conclusion that the globe is warming is based on a comparison of temperatures now with those over 100 years ago.  The article went on to say that data over 100 years ago was not as accurate as it is today, nor is it as detailed (there weren’t nearly as many data points), and a lot of extrapolation between those less-accurate data points had to be done to cover areas not recorded then. How &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; scientist can support an analysis based on a comparison of data of varying degrees of accuracy and origin is beyond me, unless they do it to keep the funding coming, which is a definite possibility. 

The other possibility, not exclusive of the funding, is that there is an ulterior motive at play (the &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; issue), and that is the proponents are Leftists/Marxists trying to drag capitalism down because Marxist communism failed. If communism can&#039;t succeed, then capitalism must fail. 

In the ‘70s, they tried selling us the idea of a new ice age. When we defeat the current Marxists’ attempt to drag capitalism down, what’s next? How about global flattening? The flattening of the globe could be due mainly to man-caused changes to the roundness of the earth such as his use of giant earth-moving equipment and oil-drilling rigs that cause the collapse of the surface when oil is removed from deep within the crust. Just think of all the new studies (well-funded, of course) that could be done and conferences that could be attended that would demand the U.S. curtail its development of the land. Communist China will be exempt, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About a year ago, I stumbled across an article whose main point was that the conclusion that the globe is warming is based on a comparison of temperatures now with those over 100 years ago.  The article went on to say that data over 100 years ago was not as accurate as it is today, nor is it as detailed (there weren’t nearly as many data points), and a lot of extrapolation between those less-accurate data points had to be done to cover areas not recorded then. How <b><i>any</i></b> scientist can support an analysis based on a comparison of data of varying degrees of accuracy and origin is beyond me, unless they do it to keep the funding coming, which is a definite possibility. </p>
<p>The other possibility, not exclusive of the funding, is that there is an ulterior motive at play (the <b><i>real</i></b> issue), and that is the proponents are Leftists/Marxists trying to drag capitalism down because Marxist communism failed. If communism can&#039;t succeed, then capitalism must fail. </p>
<p>In the ‘70s, they tried selling us the idea of a new ice age. When we defeat the current Marxists’ attempt to drag capitalism down, what’s next? How about global flattening? The flattening of the globe could be due mainly to man-caused changes to the roundness of the earth such as his use of giant earth-moving equipment and oil-drilling rigs that cause the collapse of the surface when oil is removed from deep within the crust. Just think of all the new studies (well-funded, of course) that could be done and conferences that could be attended that would demand the U.S. curtail its development of the land. Communist China will be exempt, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sabin</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/12/11/global-warming-lies-create-a-climate-of-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-66546</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,

One thing to bear in mind about Steyn&#039;s statistics: It will predictably be our fault.  The emissions outside the US are no-doubt because China and Mexico and Eastern Europe require more power to manufacture the stuff our imperialist, consumer-driven culture covets like iPods, heated seats for our SUVs, and Bratz dolls with hydrocarbon-derived hair follicles.  Further, we&#039;ve beamed our TV signals around the globe via satellite, exporting our culture forcibly and creating a &quot;keep up with the Joneses&quot; peer pressure that is impossible to resist by these gentle peoples who were at one with the earth until we came along.  Were it not for us, the rest of the world would be completely content without fossil fuels or electricity.  

This is why it is important to look beneath the statistics to the real story.  I&#039;m sure that it will only be a matter of time before Steyn&#039;s statistics are given suitable &quot;context&quot; by the Left to explain that only superficial conservatives would draw simplistic assumptions about carbon hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>One thing to bear in mind about Steyn&#039;s statistics: It will predictably be our fault.  The emissions outside the US are no-doubt because China and Mexico and Eastern Europe require more power to manufacture the stuff our imperialist, consumer-driven culture covets like iPods, heated seats for our SUVs, and Bratz dolls with hydrocarbon-derived hair follicles.  Further, we&#039;ve beamed our TV signals around the globe via satellite, exporting our culture forcibly and creating a &#034;keep up with the Joneses&#034; peer pressure that is impossible to resist by these gentle peoples who were at one with the earth until we came along.  Were it not for us, the rest of the world would be completely content without fossil fuels or electricity.  </p>
<p>This is why it is important to look beneath the statistics to the real story.  I&#039;m sure that it will only be a matter of time before Steyn&#039;s statistics are given suitable &#034;context&#034; by the Left to explain that only superficial conservatives would draw simplistic assumptions about carbon hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sabin</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/12/11/global-warming-lies-create-a-climate-of-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-66545</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,

Apparently you missed the memo that explained it&#039;s all about perception, not reality.  What one &lt;i&gt;actually&lt;/i&gt; does to reduce emissions isn&#039;t nearly as important as having the right bumper sticker, or making sure those emissions don&#039;t come out your Toyota Primus&#039;s tailpipe and instead go up that coal plant&#039;s smokestack and out that mining truck&#039;s tailpipe 500 miles away when you plug your car in at night.  

I&#039;m wondering how all those delegates got to Bali.  Might it have involved jet aircraft - perhaps even &lt;i&gt;private&lt;/i&gt; jet aircraft?

It brings to mind the phrase, &quot;let them eat cake.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>Apparently you missed the memo that explained it&#039;s all about perception, not reality.  What one <i>actually</i> does to reduce emissions isn&#039;t nearly as important as having the right bumper sticker, or making sure those emissions don&#039;t come out your Toyota Primus&#039;s tailpipe and instead go up that coal plant&#039;s smokestack and out that mining truck&#039;s tailpipe 500 miles away when you plug your car in at night.  </p>
<p>I&#039;m wondering how all those delegates got to Bali.  Might it have involved jet aircraft &#8211; perhaps even <i>private</i> jet aircraft?</p>
<p>It brings to mind the phrase, &#034;let them eat cake.&#034;</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Ellis Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/12/11/global-warming-lies-create-a-climate-of-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-66476</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Ellis Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Mark Steyn

At the recent climate jamboree in Bali, the Rev. Al Gore told the assembled faithful: &quot;My own country, the United States, is principally responsible for obstructing progress here.&quot; Really? The American Thinker&#039;s Web site ran the numbers. In the seven years between the signing of Kyoto in 1997 and 2004, here&#039;s what happened:

•Emissions worldwide increased 18.0 percent; 

•Emissions from countries that signed the treaty increased 21.1 percent; 

•Emissions from nonsigners increased 10.0 percent; and 

•Emissions from the United States increased 6.6 percent. 

It&#039;s hard not to conclude a form of mental illness has gripped the world&#039;s elites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Mark Steyn</p>
<p>At the recent climate jamboree in Bali, the Rev. Al Gore told the assembled faithful: &#034;My own country, the United States, is principally responsible for obstructing progress here.&#034; Really? The American Thinker&#039;s Web site ran the numbers. In the seven years between the signing of Kyoto in 1997 and 2004, here&#039;s what happened:</p>
<p>•Emissions worldwide increased 18.0 percent; </p>
<p>•Emissions from countries that signed the treaty increased 21.1 percent; </p>
<p>•Emissions from nonsigners increased 10.0 percent; and </p>
<p>•Emissions from the United States increased 6.6 percent. </p>
<p>It&#039;s hard not to conclude a form of mental illness has gripped the world&#039;s elites.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sabin</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2007/12/11/global-warming-lies-create-a-climate-of-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-66158</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saturday, there was a cartoon on one of the major networks where the &quot;bad guys&quot; were those responsible for global warming and the &quot;evil&quot; scientists were those that denied its reality as man-caused. 

Monday, I was in a Rite Aid store to buy some Christmas cards.  What should assualt my eyes but a &lt;i&gt;Christmas&lt;/i&gt; card dealing with global warming.  George Bush and Condi Rice had been altered in photoshop to have bald, sunburned heads with wisps of smoke coming off the top.  

Yesterday, it was an internal newsletter from my employer blathering again about &quot;carbon footprints&quot; and our &quot;committment&quot; to reduce them.  (I have no problem with saving energy...I have a problem with the premise of why we &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; save energy.)

And then we wonder why so many people who have never taken the time to actually research the matter for themselves are &quot;sure&quot; that global warming is caused by man rather than part of some naturally occurring cycle.  What do we expect when this dubious message is screamed from every corner as though it were fact?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saturday, there was a cartoon on one of the major networks where the &#034;bad guys&#034; were those responsible for global warming and the &#034;evil&#034; scientists were those that denied its reality as man-caused. </p>
<p>Monday, I was in a Rite Aid store to buy some Christmas cards.  What should assualt my eyes but a <i>Christmas</i> card dealing with global warming.  George Bush and Condi Rice had been altered in photoshop to have bald, sunburned heads with wisps of smoke coming off the top.  </p>
<p>Yesterday, it was an internal newsletter from my employer blathering again about &#034;carbon footprints&#034; and our &#034;committment&#034; to reduce them.  (I have no problem with saving energy&#8230;I have a problem with the premise of why we <i>should</i> save energy.)</p>
<p>And then we wonder why so many people who have never taken the time to actually research the matter for themselves are &#034;sure&#034; that global warming is caused by man rather than part of some naturally occurring cycle.  What do we expect when this dubious message is screamed from every corner as though it were fact?</p>
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		<title>By: hvance</title>
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		<dc:creator>hvance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all who believes that these 3 nations will pay up the $33 billion please stand up. This topic really makes my head hurt to think someone could actually buy into this trash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all who believes that these 3 nations will pay up the $33 billion please stand up. This topic really makes my head hurt to think someone could actually buy into this trash.</p>
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		<title>By: sedonaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>sedonaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatives need to stop arguing this issue and start arguing the REAL issue. &quot;The issue is not the issue -- the revolution is the issue.&quot; 

Caruba barely touches on the real issue in his last two short paragraphs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatives need to stop arguing this issue and start arguing the REAL issue. &#034;The issue is not the issue &#8212; the revolution is the issue.&#034; </p>
<p>Caruba barely touches on the real issue in his last two short paragraphs.</p>
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