Fred Thompson understands that a bedrock of American conservatism is the principle of Federalism.
When Fred Thompson served in the senate several years ago (yes, I do remember him serving in the Senate), I got the impression he was flat-out, full-bore conservative. I didn’t see a whole lot of him, throughout the years, but when I did see him — when I heard him comment on various issues — I was favorably impressed.
Learning many months ago that he was contemplating a run for the White House, I thought to myself: Finally, there might be someone I can feel good about voting for next year. Someone who shares my conservative beliefs. Someone whom my fellow-conservatives will whole-heartedly support. Imagine my surprise to find that commentators such as Ann Coulter and George Will — as well as a fair number of evangelical Christians — were doing anything but supporting Thompson. Ann Coulter, for example, rails against Thompson for voting not to impeach Bill Clinton on one count of perjury in 1999, as well as for consistently voting against tort reform. George Will savages Thompson’s seemingly foolhardy support of “McCain-Feingold.” And certain evangelical Christians basically condemn him for failing to support federal Constitutional Amendments that would ban abortion and gay marriage.
In the wake of all the criticism leveled against Fred (Coulter and Will are just a couple of the critics who’ve questioned his conservatism), I had to ask myself two questions: 1) Had I been wrong about him from the start? and 2) Was he far more liberal than I’d assumed he was? Though my answer to both of those questions was an immediate “no,” I decided to find out for certain — i.e., to look beyond the surface of Fred’s seemingly liberal ideas and see whether they stemmed from a conservative point of view, after all. This is what I discovered.
Before Fred even considers how he’s going to vote on the issue at hand, he asks himself two questions: 1) “Is the government better equipped than the private sector to perform . . . [this] task?” and, 2) “If so, what level of government (federal or state) ought to . . . [perform] it?” He asks himself these questions because he is a “federalist” through and through. What does that mean? That means he strives to keep the federal government out of our lives as much as possible — to prevent the federal government from dictating what we can and cannot do on a daily basis. And note, he doesn’t “check his federalism at the door” whenever staying true to that federalism might cause a few of his supporters to fall away. Further, he doesn’t simply say what he thinks his supporters — as well as prospective supporters — want to hear. He says what he honestly believes — whether it’s popular or not.
Fred’s federalism is just one of nine “first principles” he allows himself to be guided by. These “first principles” are born of “the documents of our Nation’s founding” — namely, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights — and “the wisdom of the ages.” Here is a synopsis of those first principles (excluding federalism) described by Fred:
1. Individual Liberty: the overriding belief that “our rights come from God — not from government.”
2. Personal Responsibility: “All of us must take responsibility for our actions and strive to improve our own lives and to contribute to building a better society.”
3. Free Markets: “We must reform our tax system, encourage investment, support entrepreneurial spirit, open markets abroad to American goods, and minimize burdensome government regulations.”
4. Limited Government: “Government must be strong enough to protect us, competent enough to provide basic government services, but limited by the delineated powers in the Constitution.”
5. Protecting our Country: “The first responsibility of the federal government is to protect the Nation and the American people . . . We must have a strong and effective military, capable intelligence services, and a vigorous law enforcement and homeland security capacity.”
6. Traditional American Values: “A healthy society is predicated on belief in God; respect for all life; strong families centered on the institution of marriage — the union of a man and a woman; and self-respect and tolerance of others.”
7. The Rule of Law: “We protect our liberty, secure our rights, and promote a just and stable society through the rule of law. We owe ourselves and our fellow citizens our own adherence to the rules, but tough law enforcement and punishment for those who do not. A free and independent judiciary that interprets the law by adhering strictly to legal text and respects its limited role in our system of government is essential to our security and freedom, and we need judges who understand that role if we are to preserve our republic and freedom.
8. “Conserving Our Nation’s Resources: “We must always strive to ensure that the resources we use to lead our lives are here for future generations to enjoy and use as well.”
I don’t know about you, but not one of these principles even hints of liberalism to me.
Back to Ms. Coulter and her ire over Fred’s failure to convict President Clinton on one count of perjury. At first glance, I tended to agree with Ms. Coulter that Fred had, in essence, blown it when he (seemingly) gave Clinton a pass. But the more I looked into the matter — the more I read what Fred had written about it (in the February 12, 1999 issue of the “Congressional Record”) — the more I understood why he voted the way he did. He could have "taken the easy way out” — i.e., he could have convicted Clinton, without much thought, and made his constituents happy. But instead, he did just what he had done 17 years ago, when he was appointed minority counsel for the Watergate hearings. He “went back to the Constitution” to try to figure out how our Founding Fathers would have handled the situation. Indeed, he set his own feelings aside, in both cases, and sought to do right by the Constitution, applying the same standards to a Democrat who had been impeached (Clinton) as he did to a Republican who was about to be impeached (Nixon). In the end, he voted Clinton guilty of “obstruction of justice” but nothing more. (Note: even if Fred had voted Clinton guilty on both charges, Clinton still would have walked.) The point is, Fred was determined to stick to his principles — to follow the rule of law — whether or not doing so would make him popular with his constituents. Citing the 18th-century Irish political philosopher, Edmund Burke, Fred readily revealed his line of reasoning: "Your representative owes you not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays, instead of serving you, if he sacrifices it to your opinion." (as qtd. in the International Herald Tribune, Sept. 30, 2007).
On the issue of tort reform, I understand why Ms. Coulter deems Fred “pro trial-attorney.” His votes against such reform do seem to suggest that he supports the litigious sleaze-balls in our society who aim to fleece innocent Americans as often as possible. But the truth is, Fred is not against tort reform. He’s against the federal government trying to usurp states’ rights — against implementing tort reform at the federal level when there is absolutely no justification for doing so in the Constitution. Can you name one federal program that hasn’t become an inordinately expensive, bureaucratic nightmare? Could it be Social Security? Or Medicare? How about the Environmental Protection Agency? Or the Department of Education? You get my point.
And besides, tort reform isn’t always a good thing. I know from experience. In 1998, my mother died of a misdiagnosed case of appendicitis. Sadly enough, an ER doctor sent her home, in the midst of an acute attack, telling her she simply had a “virus” and that he didn’t “have any empty beds.” Returning to the ER 24 hours later, she underwent an emergency appendectomy which revealed that her appendix had ruptured and spread infection throughout her internal organs. She survived the surgery. But she — having suffered for years from kidney disease, heart disease and diabetes — wasn’t strong enough to fight what was left of the infection and make it through the recovery.
Thanks to the $250,000 cap state legislators placed on awards for “pain and suffering,” none of the attorneys I consulted with — and I consulted with many — would take her case. They wouldn’t take it because they couldn’t have made enough money from it to offset the risk of losing the case as well as the cost of simply taking the case to court.
So the doctor who essentially killed my mother never even got a “slap on the wrist” and still practices at that same hospital, in that same ER, to this day. That’s one bit of tort reform my family and I could easily have done without.
On to McCain-Feingold. Say what you will about Fred’s support of McCain-Feingold (I’ll be right there saying it with you), had it not been for that support, the “hard money” limit would never have been doubled from $1,000 to $2,000, indexed for inflation. (Democrats would have made sure the limit remained $1,000.) I give Fred credit for this. But I must admit, I am as stymied as Mr. Will that Fred supported the free-speech restriction (with regard to campaign ads) the bill likewise contained. I just try not to think about it and instead concentrate on what Fred’s been saying about it throughout the last few months. When asked by Sean Hannity, on June 6, 2007: “Do you still support . . . [McCain-Feingold]? Was it the right decision, in retrospect?” Fred replied: “Part of it was, and part of it wasn’t.” Fred went on to explain that he still believes the hard-money increase and the soft-money ban were good things, and he continues to support them. But he no longer supports the restriction of free speech — i.e., the restrictions placed on campaign ads 30 days before primary elections and 60 before general elections. Now, Fred is leaning toward “full disclosure with harsh penalties for not reporting everything on the internet immediately.” (http://www.opinionjournal.com/, March 17, 2007). Apparently, he has seen the error of his ways. What more can we ask for?
Now, to the evangelicals. First, the abortion debate. Despite the fact that Fred wants nothing more than to see Roe vs. Wade overturned — though his voting record in the Senate was 100% pro-life (including votes to ban both partial-birth abortion and human cloning) — certain evangelicals have basically crossed him off as a LIBERAL. Why? Because he has stated that he will not “run for president” based on the “Right to Life” plank of the GOP platform. While he agrees with the sentiments expressed in the plank, he has said he will not make it the cornerstone of his campaign, for two reasons: 1) he knows such an amendment will never garner enough votes to pass (he seems to be the only candidate who has guts enough to admit this), and 2) he wants each state to have the authority to make its own laws concerning abortion. In other words, he, as a federalist, wants the people in each state to regain the right that was and still is granted them by the Constitution — the right the Supreme Court recklessly disregarded in 1973: the right to vote for or against abortion.
According to Fred, and rightly so, Roe vs. Wade is nothing more than the result of activist, non-constructionist judges who took it upon themselves to rewrite the Constitution instead of simply doing what they were supposed to do with it: interpret it. Think about it: abortion is not mentioned in the Constitution; it’s not even alluded to, yet seven Supreme Court Justices “legalized” it 34 years ago. Yes, liberal Supreme Court Justices legalized a Constitutional “right” they themselves created. Why did they create it? Because they believed back then just what liberals, in general, believe today: we are far too stupid, too unenlightened to vote the “right” way — i.e., their way. Only they know what’s best for us. Only they truly care about us. Why, we should be on our knees thanking them for imparting us with their steadfast wisdom and generosity!
The point is, if Fred were to have it his way, we would have the opportunity to vote. That’s the last thing liberals want to happen.
Before I move on to Fred’s stance on “gay marriage,” I’d like to talk about Fred’s supposed pro-abortion “lobbying” in 1991 — that hefty 19 hours he billed the Family Planning & Reproductive Health Association over a 14-month period (when he worked for the Arent Fox law firm). For one thing, I don’t really care what he did nearly 17 years ago. If he was at all inclined to support abortion (and I don’t believe he was), he was no longer so inclined by the time he was elected to the Senate. You can’t argue with his 100% pro-life voting record over the eight years he served. But if argue you must, simply head on over to NARAL’s website and see what the zealots there have to say about him. They’re making it perfectly clear that he is the staunch enemy of a “woman’s right to choose.”
By the way, have you noticed how liberals, in general, are “trying to have it both ways?” They’re telling conservatives that Fred is essentially a “pro-abortion” operative and that no one should even consider voting for him. Yet they’re telling their fellow liberals he’s the last candidate they’d want to vote for because he is solidly pro-life. Which way is it, folks? (One more thing: if Fred’s so pro-abortion, why in the world did the National Right to Life Committee endorse him?)
Now, about Fred’s stance on “gay marriage.” Unlike some evangelical Christians who are pushing for a federal Constitutional Amendment that would ban gay marriage, Fred is again pushing for states’ rights, admitting — just as he does with abortion — that a federal, Constitutional Amendment banning gay marriage will never pass muster in Congress. Specifically, Fred wants to: 1) give states the authority to recognize gay marriages only if those marriages are approved by voters or legislatures, and 2) specify that no state would be required to recognize gay marriages approved in other states. Fred, you see, is determined to return to us the right to vote. Liberals, on the other hand, are determined to continue to deny us that right — i.e., to continue to take the authority the Constitution grants us and lavish it upon those who do not, according to the Constitution, have that authority: judges. (Note: it’s been four years since the Supreme Judicial Court in Massachusetts “legalized” gay marriage, yet not one other state has followed suit. In fact, 42 states now have laws prohibiting gay marriage and 27 states have Constitutional Amendments prohibiting gay marriage (http://www.stateline.org/). Doesn’t this tell you something about the “will of the people” and why liberals are so afraid of it?
Indeed, Fred refers to both the issue of abortion and the issue of gay marriage as judicially-created problems that call for a judicially-created solution — that solution being to appoint non-activist judges who will follow the law and not simply “make it up they go along” (Fred Thompson, “Second Kates,” National Review Online, May 10, 2007). We have only to look at some of the comments he has made in the recent — as well as the not-so-recent — past, to rest assured he’ll appoint precisely the type of judges he says he will: conservative, non-activist judges who “respect” their “limited role” in our “system of government” (see Principle #7). In a speech he gave at the Council for National Policy on May 12, 2007, titled “First Things First,” he says: “Our founders established an independent federal judiciary to decide cases, not social policy. Yet more and more that’s exactly what it [the judiciary] is doing. Roe vs. Wade is a classic example . . . if judges continue to act like politicians[,] they will get the respect currently given to politicians. The antidote for this, of course, is good judges” (as qtd. on National Review Online, Sept. 14, 2007). While being interviewed by Miles O’Brian on CNN, on July 20, 2005, he said: “Whatever one’s personal views . . . [are] as a judge, the main obligation and duty is to set aside any of those views and apply the law and the Constitution. That’s what good judges do if they’re ethically . . . carrying out their duty.”
Finally, to the laziness charge. I can’t count the times I’ve heard or read, in so many words, that: Fred was a lazy Senator who had “nothing to show” for the years he spent in the Senate. Richard Cohen, from the Washington Post, snivels: “If Thompson’s name came up in some sort of free-association game, he would be a genuine stumper: Thompson and what? There is no Thompson Act, Thompson Compromise, Thompson Hearing, Thompson Speech or Thompson Anything that comes to mind . . . [he] came and went from the Senate as if he was never there.” (June 5, 2007) Borrowing quotes from the Washington Times and Newsweek, a September 12, 2007 post on the North Dakota Democratic NPL Party Blog laments: “. . . [Thompson] kept a lean formal schedule, did the bare minimum to get by and . . . was known to duck out of late-night debates . . . Thompson has never been an enthusiastic politician. GOP elders had to plead with him to run for the Senate in 1994 . . . some close to him question whether moving into the White House is truly . . . [his] life ambition.”
Leave it to liberals to take what’s virtuous and make it a fault worthy only of contempt. I rejoice in the fact that Fred wasn’t hell-bent to make a name for himself in the Senate — i.e., that he didn’t author, sponsor, or co-sponsor a slew of new legislation. (We don’t need more laws. We’ve got far too many already.) Likewise, I say Hallelujah! to the fact that he “kept a lean schedule and did the bare minimum to get by.” (The less time Senators spend “doing their jobs,” the better off we are.) “He’s never been an enthusiastic politician”? No. He’s simply never been driven by self-elevating, egotistical desire.
It’s laughable to think, as liberals obviously do, that “GOP elders” pleading with him to “run for the Senate” should be construed as a count against him. How many men have been so highly regarded, politically speaking, that their fellow-party-members have beseeched them to run for anything? (And by the way, Fred won by a landslide — by more than a 20% margin — each of the two times he did, in fact, run.)
Fred puts his time in the Senate in perspective: “It doesn’t always have to do with putting your name on a piece of legislation . . . there was an awful lot of bad legislation that I helped stop. (http//www.opinionjournal.com/, June 4, 2007).
Having looked “beyond the surface” of Fred’s seemingly liberal ideas, I have come to conclude precisely what I concluded in the first place: Fred is far more conservative, all the way around, than any of the other Republican candidates. He truly does “stand out from the pack,” so to speak. If you don’t believe me, just take a peek at some of the things he’s said, repeatedly, throughout the last few months. Then ask yourself: “What other candidate(s) have I heard making statements such as these?”
With regard to his eight years in the Senate, he ‘s said: “I put term limits on myself . . . I didn’t want a career in politics, but I thought giving it your best shot and doing what you thought was right would free you up. And if you got sent home a little early, that . . . would be OK, because that’s where you were going anyway” (as qtd.on: http//:abcnews.go.com/, October 10, 2007). Likewise, when asked by Byron York to name two or three of his greatest Senatorial accomplishments, Fred replied, “You mean, besides leaving the Senate?” (National Review Online, Sept. 7, 2007).
About being honest with the American people and not pandering for votes, he’s said: “You’re either going to do the right thing, or you’re not. If you are politically tacking all the time, it makes life too long and too complicated” (NY Times, Sept. 30, 2007). “The difficulties facing our country are too serious not to tell the truth about what we’re going to have to do as a nation. It’s sober in a way, but it’s optimistic in a way . . .” (Ed Morrissey interview with Thompson, http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/, August 30, 2007).
On the issue of his desire to run for President, Fred told a reporter from an Indianapolis TV news station: “I haven’t been deciding that I wanted to run for president since I was High School prom king — and I never was, incidentally” (NY Times, Sept. 30, 2007). Further, he remarks to Sean Hannity: “If a person craves power for the sake of power, if he craves the office for the sake of holding the office . . . [he’s] got . . . [his] priorities mixed up” (Hannity & Colmes, June 6, 2007). Further yet, he has said: “I feel deeply that I am . . . [running for President] for the right reasons. I love my country, and I’m concerned about its future” (Fred’s announcement speech, via webcast, Sept. 6, 2007).
If you want to elect someone for President who will stay true to his conservative principles, someone who will strive to keep the federal government out of our lives as much as possible, someone who will never be afraid to be honest — even when he knows being honest could cost him a few votes - -Fred Thompson is your man.
I pray to God we nominate him. For if we don’t, we’ll have two exceedingly liberal individuals to choose from: 1) pro-abortion, pro gun-control, pro gay-rights, pro illegal-immigration, pro activist-judge Rudy Giuliani, or 2): pro-abortion, pro gun-control, pro gay-rights, pro illegal-immigration pro activist-judge Hillary Clinton.
May we not go down that disastrous road with either one of them.
karen_norling@roadrunner.com
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Great read. I wish I could make everyone read it. For the life of me I can't understand how Fred's not up by 20 points in every poll.
Comment by A5Mag12 | January 11, 2008
Very soon, everyone on the net will be reading it because we'll link it on some 4+ dozen blogs. ;- )
Excellent article Karen, thank you!
You'll find very much support of your clear and correct observations within these articles;
AP Gives Thompson the ‘04 Treatment by Jed Babbin
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24127
Conservative Blackout by Lisa Fabrizio
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12517
Comment by Chip | January 11, 2008
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This is perhaps one of the finest and most comprehensive articles I have read about FRED, and I have read thousands–it is thorough and very well done. Kudos to Karen Norling and to FRED DALTON THOMPSON : You are finally being discovered for the great mind and talents you have, and your kindness to all and leadership qualities you have in great quantity! Fred- America needs YOU now!!
Comment by jftous | January 12, 2008
An interesting article, but I fear it demonstrates rather the reverse of what you claim.
Let me say at the outset that I do not have any fundamental problem with what you list as Thompson’s “principles”. The problem is that they are NOT principles, they are policies. And in my view, someone who is unable to distinguish between the two is not only unfit for president, he could even be dangerous.
A principle is “the original state of something”; “A fundamental cause or basis of something”; “A fundamental truth or proposition on which others depend: a primary assumption forming the basis of a chain of reasoning.”
A policy is something which is derived from a principle in order to give effect to the rationale behind the principle. Policy: “Political sagacity or diplomacy; prudence or skill in the conduct of public affairs; also, political cunning.”
I accept that principle and policy are often used interchangeably today, but that does not detract from the fact that they are two fundamentally different things. I also accept that a policy can relate to a principle – eg, a policy could be to embrace a principle, and give effect to it.
But where policies are set out that are not founded in fundamental principles, there is no way to challenge the policy, especially if it is modified or changed.
So let’s use that yardstick to look briefly at Thompson’s ‘principles’:
1. Individual Liberty: the overriding belief that “our rights come from God — not from government.” – A “belief” cannot be a principle because a principle would be “a general statement or tenet forming the basis of a system of belief.” Here we have it the wrong way round: a principle deriving from a belief. And, in any event, as I have pointed out many times before, God did not give us ‘rights’, he gave us obligations (assuming Thompson is referring to the God of the Jewish and Christian Scriptures). And anyway, are you suggesting that Democrats would dispute that statement – I expect only a very few ultra-liberals (but even they base their whole ‘civil liberties’ agenda on ‘rights’).
2. Personal Responsibility: “All of us must take responsibility for our actions and strive to improve our own lives and to contribute to building a better society.” – Now here at least we have something more in tune with the Scriptures – responsibility, which implies obligations. But then Thompson throws a fly in the ointment: “a better society”. What principle imposes an obligation on the individual to build a better society? That is a recipe for a Welfare State – it is precisely the ‘obligation’ Europeans invoke to take money and dole it around like confetti. So, no principle there! Although I expect Obama and Clinton would not have a problem with such a policy.
3. Free Markets: “We must reform our tax system, encourage investment, support entrepreneurial spirit, open markets abroad to American goods, and minimize burdensome government regulations.” – This is simply a statement of intention. Simply ask ‘why’ we should do all this and we see that the intention is not based on any principle whatsoever. This is probably the only policy the Liberals would oppose, or more properly slant to support their policies. But, in any event, government should not involve itself in promoting anything, or supporting anything etc. It should simply keep its nose out of such matters and let the people get on with it. I don’t need government to “encourage” and “support” my efforts to provide for my family. I can do it myself if they just mind their own business, and let me mind mine. And what will Thompson do to “minimize burdensome government regulations”? Set up a department, perhaps, to supervise the regulation of the minimization of burdensome regulations?? A sort of department for the regulation of regulations??
4. Limited Government: “Government must be strong enough to protect us, competent enough to provide basic government services, but limited by the delineated powers in the Constitution.” – Again, no principle here. Why must the government be strong enough to protect us? Why, based on ‘principle 2’, should we not take responsibility for our own defense etc. And we should remember that the Constitution provides for Congress to raise money for the “general Welfare’. So this ‘principle’ would change nothing. I don’t expect that the Democrats and Liberals would oppose this policy, they would just put their slant on it, and so we would have a ‘we are right’ – ‘no, we are right’ situation, precisely the mess we have at the moment.
5. Protecting our Country: “The first responsibility of the federal government is to protect the Nation and the American people . . . We must have a strong and effective military, capable intelligence services, and a vigorous law enforcement and homeland security capacity.” – Again, what Principle underpins such a policy? I happen to agree with it, but unless it is based on some fundamental Principle, it is simply an opinion. Would Obama and/or Clinton oppose this? Are they arguing for a weak military and denying that they would have any responsibility to protect the Nation and the American people if they were in office?
6. Traditional American Values: “A healthy society is predicated on belief in God; respect for all life; strong families centered on the institution of marriage — the union of a man and a woman; and self-respect and tolerance of others.” – Again, I agree with these ‘opinions’, but for entirely different reasons. What are Thompson’s principles which underpin this? And I am waiting to see whether Obama and Clinton would oppose belief in God, or strong families, or particularly “tolerance of others”. Tolerance is a religion to the Liberals.
7. The Rule of Law: “We protect our liberty, secure our rights, and promote a just and stable society through the rule of law. We owe ourselves and our fellow citizens our own adherence to the rules, but tough law enforcement and punishment for those who do not. A free and independent judiciary that interprets the law by adhering strictly to legal text and respects its limited role in our system of government is essential to our security and freedom, and we need judges who understand that role if we are to preserve our republic and freedom.” – Our laws should be predicated on Principles, otherwise they are just that – laws. And laws are one thing we need less of. The judiciary should also be subjected to clear principles, not just laws. All Thompson is saying here is that he does not like some judicial decisions because in his opinion they are wrong. So he simply wants to do what the Liberals have done – appoint judges more to his liking. And so the cycle will go on and on. So, again, the Liberals would agree with this sentiment, only they would say the ‘conservative judges’ are getting it all wrong.
8. “Conserving Our Nation’s Resources: “We must always strive to ensure that the resources we use to lead our lives are here for future generations to enjoy and use as well.” – Why should we concern ourselves with future generations? What is the Principle that underpins this ‘policy’? Principle 5 of my Ten Principles of Freedom gives the basis for such a policy, but what are Thompson’s? And again, is he suggesting that the Democrats would oppose such a ‘policy’? It seems to me that the likes of Al Gore are promoting just such a policy.
So in my humble view, based on this waffle which he calls ‘principles’, Thompson is not ready to take 101 in Constitutional Government, never mind the presidency of the United States of America.
Joseph BH McMillan http://www.freedomvrights.com
Comment by Joseph BH McMillan | January 12, 2008
I would just like to add one more thing on Thompson; and that relates to his “sanctimonious reverence” of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. But since Thomas Jefferson is responsible for a great deal of the Bill of Rights, in particular, I will invite him to make the comment. If you please, Mr Jefferson:
“Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the arc of the covenant, too sacred to be touched. They ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment. I knew that age well; I belonged to it, and labored with it. It deserved well of its country. It was very like the present, but without the experience of the present; and forty years of experience in government is worth a century of book-reading; and this they would say themselves, were they to rise from the dead. I am certainly not an advocate for frequent and untried changes in laws and constitutions. I think moderate imperfections had better be borne with; because, when once known, we accommodate ourselves to them, and find practical means of correcting their ill effects. But I know also, that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy, as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.”
Thank you, Mr Jefferson. Let’s just hope someone’s listening!
Joseph BH McMillan http://www.freedomvrights.com
Comment by Joseph BH McMillan | January 12, 2008
Karen, despite Joseph BS McMillan criticism. You produced a well written article that is understandable by most. You have edit Fred's “First Principles" for the purpose of brevity. But reading BS's lengthy criticism makes me wonder why he wasted his time on such small points to criticize Fred Thompson. He could of just said I don't like Fred and what you said about Fred. Instead of trying to inflat his ego. BS, you suree..are smart…but Karen wrote a wonderful article. My mother said it don't matter how smart you are if you don't do anything productive. And that one of my 'first priciples'. Now, I know I'm truely blessed with ignorance.
Comment by bubybl | January 12, 2008
Hey Joey;
There's a saying that covers your aspersions here and it goes something like this, "'Tis better to remain silent and be thought an idiot than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
Would this fall under your future policy or principle categories?? Will you dedicate your next book to it??
The real "danger" to America comes from mental midgets who attempt to split hairs for no other reason than to occupy their little minds in the absence of a life.
Wherein, you have unsuccessfully substituted definitions for the common sense you should have been born with while living in complete denial of our own history…get a real thought here.
Comment by Chip | January 12, 2008
Well said Chip, I couldn’t agree more.
Joseph BH McMillan http://www.freedomvrights.com
Comment by Joseph BH McMillan | January 12, 2008
Joey,
That is truely the most trivial thing I have ever read. There was no substance…all snippy remarks. Chip couldn't have been more right when he said you were splitting hairs over the meaning of words.
But heck, if you wish a few small rebuttals…here they are:
Principle and policy are used interchangably, because they are interchangable. One's principles inform their policies. And their principles are based on their beliefs. To deride him for an imaginary distinction is assinine.
1. While liberals give mouth service to God, the liberal agenda is very much predecated on the idea that the state decides what your rights are.
2. Belief in making a better society does not demand a welfare state. Conservatives belief that welfare causes poverty and that government intervention only deepens reliance on government. Your premise is flawed.
3. What kind of stupidity is this? Are you complaining about someone wanting to reduce your taxes? Heaven forbid someone decide to take less money from you. What a dumb criticism.
5. Of course Clinton would disagree. In office, Bill gutted the military, and remember, it was a "co-presidency".
7. Every law is based on SOMEONE'S principle. If you don't understand this, you don't have much to offer us.
Furthermore, demanding that someone look to the Constitution and follow their role therein is a easy view to defend.
At the end of the day, none of your criticisms are worth much. "I disagree" certainly doesn't make for much of an argument. If following the Constitution is not enough of a reason to follow a principle…then you're not going to argue for a better reason to have judges who follow the law…not make it.
It seems like you're the one who can't pass muster in Basic Logic 101.
Comment by WolvenBear | January 12, 2008
Oh dear, oh dear! The power of your words, and the compelling force of your arguments, moves me to deep remorse for the errors of my ways, and the utter futility of my life.
Perhaps the meaning of words is meaningless. Maybe we should all just go back to grunting – then we may find more common ground.
And, by the way, I did not say I "disagree" - I said "I couldn't agree more" with Chip. But then, it's all just in the 'meaning' of words!!
Joseph BH McMillan http://www.freedomvrights.com
Comment by Joseph BH McMillan | January 12, 2008
WolvenBear, on reflection, I wish I could recompose my last Comment.
On Chip’s first Comment, I said I agree. He was essentially telling me that I waste my life ‘splitting hairs’ over niceties, and that I should get ‘a life’. I do, and I should. Is it that incomprehensible that I could recognize the utter vanity in indulging myself in such nonsense? Even when I resolve to rid myself of vanity, I find that resolve is itself founded in vanity. My Comment to Chip was not sarcasm. He took my measure well, and I took his point.
In my Comment to you, Wolven Bear, I did indulge myself in a degree of sarcasm. That too I recognize as nothing but vanity. Vanity is a plague, and I freely admit that I have the virus. But despite my best efforts, it always gets the better of me. For that, I apologize.
Joseph BH McMillan http://www.freedomvrights.com
Comment by Joseph BH McMillan | January 12, 2008
Would your vanity not be much better served on the same path Fred Thompson honestly walks?
300 Million verses one…you do the math.
Comment by Chip | January 12, 2008
Chip, could I conquer my vanity by serving the vanity of another?
Joseph BH McMillan http://www.freedomvrights.com
Comment by Joseph BH McMillan | January 12, 2008
Washington won the war saving the life of even those patriots who never picked up a firearm yet, he walked away when the new citizens would have willingly allowed him to rule for life.
This is the satisfaction of doing the right thing for its own sake which surpasses goals vanity would seek but, could never realize.
Choose to evolve.
Comment by Chip | January 12, 2008
Chip, I too applaud Washington for that. He seemed able to conquer vanity – to an extent.
But did he, and the other Founders, carve the Constitution and Bill of Rights in Stone?
This is what Jefferson said about that (I have made a Comment on it, but it seems to have been mislaid): “Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the arc of the covenant, too sacred to be touched. They ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment. I knew that age well; I belonged to it, and labored with it. It deserved well of its country. It was very like the present, but without the experience of the present; and forty years of experience in government is worth a century of book-reading; and this they would say themselves, were they to rise from the dead. I am certainly not an advocate for frequent and untried changes in laws and constitutions. I think moderate imperfections had better be borne with; because, when once known, we accommodate ourselves to them, and find practical means of correcting their ill effects. But I know also, that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy, as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.”
And Thomas Paine said this: “It is a perversion of terms to say that a charter gives rights. It operates by a contrary effect — that of taking rights away. Rights are inherently in all the inhabitants; but charters, by annulling those rights, in the majority, leave the right, by exclusion, in the hands of a few. If charters were constructed so as to express in direct terms, "that every inhabitant, who is not a member of a corporation, shall not exercise the right of voting," such charters would, in the face, be charters not of rights, but of exclusion.
The effect is the same under the form they now stand; and the only persons on whom they operate are the persons whom they exclude. Those whose rights are guaranteed, by not being taken away, exercise no other rights than as members of the community they are entitled to without a charter; and, therefore, all charters have no other than an indirect negative operation. They do not give rights to A, but they make a difference in favour of A by taking away the right of B, and consequently are instruments of injustice.”
Paine was of course talking about the Charters and Corporations in England, but I expect you may agree that his sentiments express precisely the current problem with Bills of Rights. The “Right to Life” of the unborn child is “taken away” to “make a difference in favour” of a mother’s “Right to Choose” – her “Right to Choose” to terminate the “Right to Life” of her own child.
Perhaps I am wrong, and as I have said, I am simply indulging my vanity. But, without a life, what else is there to do – and I don’t mean that in a sarcastic sense.
Joseph BH McMillan http://www.freedomvrights.com
Comment by Joseph BH McMillan | January 12, 2008
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Comment by Regina Draper | January 13, 2008