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		<title>By: MooseNuggets &#187; But, What About Siberia??</title>
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		<dc:creator>MooseNuggets &#187; But, What About Siberia??</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: But, What About Siberia?? &#171; Half-Baked Sourdough</title>
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		<dc:creator>But, What About Siberia?? &#171; Half-Baked Sourdough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AMAI</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/02/17/calm-sun-cold-earth/comment-page-1/#comment-71478</link>
		<dc:creator>AMAI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article, Mr. Caruba. Thank you. 

Is it really too late to achieve freedom from coercion on our planet? 

Vote Individualists Party. Take back your individual rights. That&#039;s the only way to fight the irrationality of the Greencompoops. We all need to be free of coercion, so that those who disagree with the Greens&#039; idea can be free to fund the nuclear power plants, the intelligent recycling research that&#039;s desperately needed and all kinds of as yet unimagined inventions and discoveries that our species is capable of creating and detecting. 

Those who disagree with the environmentalists simply need to be free from coercion by those who agree with them. When a persuasive argument is needed to raise the funds that pay those research grants, then let those who truly agree put the money in the pot for them. Stop taking MY money to pay for things with which I disagree.

That&#039;s how I feel.

Tha&#039;s the message I send to The Powers That Be when I vote for the Individualists Party. The thing our planet needs more than anything is Individual Right not to be coerced into funding or supporting that which one does not support.

End the Taxation System of Government Funding NOW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article, Mr. Caruba. Thank you. </p>
<p>Is it really too late to achieve freedom from coercion on our planet? </p>
<p>Vote Individualists Party. Take back your individual rights. That&#8217;s the only way to fight the irrationality of the Greencompoops. We all need to be free of coercion, so that those who disagree with the Greens&#8217; idea can be free to fund the nuclear power plants, the intelligent recycling research that&#8217;s desperately needed and all kinds of as yet unimagined inventions and discoveries that our species is capable of creating and detecting. </p>
<p>Those who disagree with the environmentalists simply need to be free from coercion by those who agree with them. When a persuasive argument is needed to raise the funds that pay those research grants, then let those who truly agree put the money in the pot for them. Stop taking MY money to pay for things with which I disagree.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how I feel.</p>
<p>Tha&#8217;s the message I send to The Powers That Be when I vote for the Individualists Party. The thing our planet needs more than anything is Individual Right not to be coerced into funding or supporting that which one does not support.</p>
<p>End the Taxation System of Government Funding NOW.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sabin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>freelunch,

Let&#039;s conduct a small experiment.  

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) estimates that there are approximately 1.2 billion Muslims in the world.  Other sources put that figure as low as 700 million.  Regardless, let&#039;s assume that approximately one-sixth of the earth&#039;s 6B population is Muslim.

That&#039;s a lot of people.

I will further assume that you are not a Muslim.

Please share with us, as a non-Muslim, what gives you the ability to assess whether that religion presents a true and accurate accounting of of the origin of man, man&#039;s responsibility to one another, a universal moral code, and a set of beliefs that determine where one will spend the hereafter, or whether there even is a hereafter.  

Oh, and please use only citations from accepted Muslim literature and the viewpoints of Muslim believers as you assess the veracity of Islam.

Now, compare these demands against those you have required of Caruba.  See any similarities?

Mr. Mulligan, as usual, did a fine job of asking some very pointed questions, which you can add to my questions here.  

We await your answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>freelunch,</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s conduct a small experiment.  </p>
<p>The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) estimates that there are approximately 1.2 billion Muslims in the world.  Other sources put that figure as low as 700 million.  Regardless, let&#8217;s assume that approximately one-sixth of the earth&#8217;s 6B population is Muslim.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a lot of people.</p>
<p>I will further assume that you are not a Muslim.</p>
<p>Please share with us, as a non-Muslim, what gives you the ability to assess whether that religion presents a true and accurate accounting of of the origin of man, man&#8217;s responsibility to one another, a universal moral code, and a set of beliefs that determine where one will spend the hereafter, or whether there even is a hereafter.  </p>
<p>Oh, and please use only citations from accepted Muslim literature and the viewpoints of Muslim believers as you assess the veracity of Islam.</p>
<p>Now, compare these demands against those you have required of Caruba.  See any similarities?</p>
<p>Mr. Mulligan, as usual, did a fine job of asking some very pointed questions, which you can add to my questions here.  </p>
<p>We await your answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Stapler</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/02/17/calm-sun-cold-earth/comment-page-1/#comment-71030</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Stapler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Freelunch requires more than an opinion of the science, he can find it here: http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/02/27/a-show-of-hands-one-mans-take-on-climate-change-consensus/ .  Just, for the record, I respect climate scientists honest enough to admit theirs is an immature science, not yet capable of making the kind of prediction AGW advocates have been making.  I don&#039;t believe Mr. Caruba does that either, though he does scorn any scientist who has traded intellectual integrity for fame or a cushy job or put ideology before science.  These latter, in particular, are unworthy of the label &#039;scientist&#039;.  Agenda-based science is not science, even when it manages to extend our knowledge.  That  is because it also poisons our understanding, wastes time and resources, and leads us into violating the very interests it purports to serve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Freelunch requires more than an opinion of the science, he can find it here: <a href="http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/02/27/a-show-of-hands-one-mans-take-on-climate-change-consensus/" rel="nofollow">http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/02/27/a-show-of-hands-one-mans-take-on-climate-change-consensus/</a> .  Just, for the record, I respect climate scientists honest enough to admit theirs is an immature science, not yet capable of making the kind of prediction AGW advocates have been making.  I don&#8217;t believe Mr. Caruba does that either, though he does scorn any scientist who has traded intellectual integrity for fame or a cushy job or put ideology before science.  These latter, in particular, are unworthy of the label &#8216;scientist&#8217;.  Agenda-based science is not science, even when it manages to extend our knowledge.  That  is because it also poisons our understanding, wastes time and resources, and leads us into violating the very interests it purports to serve.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Mulligan</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/02/17/calm-sun-cold-earth/comment-page-1/#comment-70919</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Mulligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>freelunch,

If you read past articles by Caruba, or spend even a cursory amount of research time on Google, you can find what you&#039;re looking for. Understanding science, the scientific method, and taking into account relevant research and facts all qualify Mr. Caruba, or anyone else, to dismiss what a scientist tells them on any given subject. Scientists are not modern prophets. Sometimes they get things wrong. They have agendas. They vie for money. They manipulate data. They conduct bad research. I have a feeling that you would be mortified at someone taking the word of a religious authority at face value without examination. Why should we take that approach to science? What qualifies you to dismiss opposing viewpoints and research? If lay people aren&#039;t qualified to reject speculative scientific research, what makes them qualified to accept it? If discrepancies arise in science, which parties whim do we put ourselves at the mercy of?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>freelunch,</p>
<p>If you read past articles by Caruba, or spend even a cursory amount of research time on Google, you can find what you&#8217;re looking for. Understanding science, the scientific method, and taking into account relevant research and facts all qualify Mr. Caruba, or anyone else, to dismiss what a scientist tells them on any given subject. Scientists are not modern prophets. Sometimes they get things wrong. They have agendas. They vie for money. They manipulate data. They conduct bad research. I have a feeling that you would be mortified at someone taking the word of a religious authority at face value without examination. Why should we take that approach to science? What qualifies you to dismiss opposing viewpoints and research? If lay people aren&#8217;t qualified to reject speculative scientific research, what makes them qualified to accept it? If discrepancies arise in science, which parties whim do we put ourselves at the mercy of?</p>
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		<title>By: freelunch</title>
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		<dc:creator>freelunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Caruba, since you insist on defaming climate scientists and journals, please tell me what qualifies you to dismiss the scientific evidence. You have not referred to any science journal articles and your quotes are poorly sourced. When you claim specifically that the science does not support them, I expect you to actually provide scientific references, not vaguely attributed quotations, articles from newspapers and nothing from science journals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Caruba, since you insist on defaming climate scientists and journals, please tell me what qualifies you to dismiss the scientific evidence. You have not referred to any science journal articles and your quotes are poorly sourced. When you claim specifically that the science does not support them, I expect you to actually provide scientific references, not vaguely attributed quotations, articles from newspapers and nothing from science journals.</p>
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		<title>By: gop4ever</title>
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		<dc:creator>gop4ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that man-made global warming is a ridiculous hoax. I do take issue with the inference that man is the product of billions of years of evolution, and that we have simply become the dominant organism on the planet due to random selection. Man is the offspring of God. We are here on earth for a purpose, and our dominion over the animals and the environemnt is no accident. Consequently, we should be good stewards of the earth. Science has always walked a crooked path in its valuable search for truth. If we consider the works of an omniscient God, His forethought and preparation in creating the earth, the current &quot;sky is falling&quot; mentality relating to carbon emissions is all the more patently ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that man-made global warming is a ridiculous hoax. I do take issue with the inference that man is the product of billions of years of evolution, and that we have simply become the dominant organism on the planet due to random selection. Man is the offspring of God. We are here on earth for a purpose, and our dominion over the animals and the environemnt is no accident. Consequently, we should be good stewards of the earth. Science has always walked a crooked path in its valuable search for truth. If we consider the works of an omniscient God, His forethought and preparation in creating the earth, the current &#8220;sky is falling&#8221; mentality relating to carbon emissions is all the more patently ridiculous.</p>
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