Comments on: Return to Samarra: Imminent Victory in Iraq http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/ Conservative and Libertarian Intellectual Philosophy and Politics Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:00:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Last Angry Man http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-73485 Last Angry Man Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:31:52 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/#comment-73485 Guys, I am a Veteran (no, I will not relate my Army experiences, save to say it isn't Iraq/Afghanistan, but earlier). The bottom line here is, military operations are not susceptible to political analysis, not in the way most people mean. Once they begin, politics ends. So, to keep analyzing them in light of political thinking is more than a bit off. The very fact that we were deployed and fought is an admission that political thinking on the matter is now invalid and bankrupt. This is the playing field you chose. Once you have deployed us, your debates are hollow and meaningless. You have already acknowledged that you have failed; continuing on with the political process is more than a bit foolish and irrelevant. Guys, I am a Veteran (no, I will not relate my Army experiences, save to say it isn’t Iraq/Afghanistan, but earlier). The bottom line here is, military operations are not susceptible to political analysis, not in the way most people mean. Once they begin, politics ends.

So, to keep analyzing them in light of political thinking is more than a bit off. The very fact that we were deployed and fought is an admission that political thinking on the matter is now invalid and bankrupt. This is the playing field you chose. Once you have deployed us, your debates are hollow and meaningless. You have already acknowledged that you have failed; continuing on with the political process is more than a bit foolish and irrelevant.

]]> By: charliec http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-73429 charliec Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:25:42 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/#comment-73429 Ok so Taguba has his 'Mission Accomplished' comment, much like the "I didn't have sexual relations with that woman, Ms Lewinsky' *wiping the DNA off the dress and off her face* At the end of the day while that banner flew in the aircraft carrier I was knee deep in sand and although I still using my "sights" for the intended purpose, I had faith in my government and my leaders. I didn't agree with much if anything that Clinton did, but I respected his position. Something that liberals should do more often, but they don't. I will credit B. Hussein Obama for candor in reference to the Palin family and the issues they are involved in. Ok so Taguba has his ‘Mission Accomplished’ comment, much like the “I didn’t have sexual relations with that woman, Ms Lewinsky’ *wiping the DNA off the dress and off her face* At the end of the day while that banner flew in the aircraft carrier I was knee deep in sand and although I still using my “sights” for the intended purpose, I had faith in my government and my leaders. I didn’t agree with much if anything that Clinton did, but I respected his position. Something that liberals should do more often, but they don’t. I will credit B. Hussein Obama for candor in reference to the Palin family and the issues they are involved in.

]]> By: Phillip Ellis Jackson http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-73417 Phillip Ellis Jackson Mon, 01 Sep 2008 05:05:16 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/#comment-73417 For those of you unfamiliar with Taguba, who was the SUBJECT of SOME OF my OBSERVATIONS in “Has the Left Become Completely Deranged?”, his comments contain a lot of CAPITALIZED WORDS and multiple exclamation points to show that the author of these remarks is a SERIOUS GUY!!!! But he can’t understand why all the guys won’t take him seriously when he tries to “debate”. See below for a few additional pearls of wisdom from his comments after I submitted my article on why Obama won’t win the 2008 election: *** Tag: ”is the pope "gullible" ?? he believes in Global Warming and that we should be good stewards of Gods creation. You and your ilk can keep pizzing on it, if you like, i choose to help the POPE. … You can find your big oil paid weather men and faux news paid "climate shills" to claim different, but the scientific communtiy says otherwise. So does that LIAR (as you call him) the Pope.” Translation: The pope … I mean POPE … must be accepted as a scientific authority on the matter of global warming, or else you’re calling him a LIAR (no hyperbole here!!). However, when it comes to defining human life at the moment of conception and therefore abortion as murder, well, reasonable people can certainly disagree because, after all, the POPE is no scientific authority. *** Tag: “ALL the peer reviewed studies on climate change Agree that People DO CONTRIBUTE to it. Not half or three quarters of all peer reviewed studies, ALL OF THEM. 100% agree.” Translation: Taguba said ALL OF THEM (he even capitalized the words to show he's serious — SERIOUSLY!!) ALL OF THEM agree 100%. EVERY peer reviewed article, EVERY ONE!! NO EXCEPTIONS!! And yet some of us may still doubt the piercing analysis and evidence he’s offered?? This is SERIOUS!! SERIOUSLY!! What would the POPE say now that you’ve called him a LIAR?? What?? You didn’t read his peer-reviewed article?? SERIOUSLY!! *** Tag: “People DO CONTRIBUTE to [global warming]. … Do you really think all the factories, all the cars, all the ships, trains, and trucks ont he planet dont contribute ?? seriously ??” Translation. This is really serious. Just try not to think about the fact that "cause" and "contribute to" are two different concepts. People contribute to lots of things without necessarily "causing" something, or even being the primary contributor. One good Mexican meal won't hold a candle to your average bovine flatulence, in terms of carbon-based natural methane production. And you don’t even need a 100% peer reviewed article to understand this. Well, most of us understand this, anyway. Only a complete idiot could view something like cyclical climate change from the perspective where people are the constant, and nature is the independent variable, when looking at the notion of causality. Seriously!! If none of this fails to convince you of the wisdom of tagboy’s analysis, then he has only one thing left for. You’re nothing but a “douchbag stinking retarded vermin with a nose full of coke,” or something like that (see “Why John Edwards’ Affair Matters”). And he says this because he’s SERIOUS. Really!! SERIOUSLY! There are more tag-isms just as funny, and just as sad, but you get the idea. Don't waste any time treating him seriously. For those of you unfamiliar with Taguba, who was the SUBJECT of SOME OF my OBSERVATIONS in “Has the Left Become Completely Deranged?”, his comments contain a lot of CAPITALIZED WORDS and multiple exclamation points to show that the author of these remarks is a SERIOUS GUY!!!! But he can’t understand why all the guys won’t take him seriously when he tries to “debate”.

See below for a few additional pearls of wisdom from his comments after I submitted my article on why Obama won’t win the 2008 election:

*** Tag: ”is the pope “gullible” ?? he believes in Global Warming and that we should be good stewards of Gods creation. You and your ilk can keep pizzing on it, if you like, i choose to help the POPE. … You can find your big oil paid weather men and faux news paid “climate shills” to claim different, but the scientific communtiy says otherwise. So does that LIAR (as you call him) the Pope.”

Translation: The pope … I mean POPE … must be accepted as a scientific authority on the matter of global warming, or else you’re calling him a LIAR (no hyperbole here!!). However, when it comes to defining human life at the moment of conception and therefore abortion as murder, well, reasonable people can certainly disagree because, after all, the POPE is no scientific authority.

*** Tag: “ALL the peer reviewed studies on climate change Agree that People DO CONTRIBUTE to it. Not half or three quarters of all peer reviewed studies, ALL OF THEM. 100% agree.”

Translation: Taguba said ALL OF THEM (he even capitalized the words to show he’s serious — SERIOUSLY!!) ALL OF THEM agree 100%. EVERY peer reviewed article, EVERY ONE!! NO EXCEPTIONS!! And yet some of us may still doubt the piercing analysis and evidence he’s offered?? This is SERIOUS!! SERIOUSLY!! What would the POPE say now that you’ve called him a LIAR?? What?? You didn’t read his peer-reviewed article?? SERIOUSLY!!

*** Tag: “People DO CONTRIBUTE to [global warming]. … Do you really think all the factories, all the cars, all the ships, trains, and trucks ont he planet dont contribute ?? seriously ??”

Translation. This is really serious. Just try not to think about the fact that “cause” and “contribute to” are two different concepts. People contribute to lots of things without necessarily “causing” something, or even being the primary contributor. One good Mexican meal won’t hold a candle to your average bovine flatulence, in terms of carbon-based natural methane production. And you don’t even need a 100% peer reviewed article to understand this. Well, most of us understand this, anyway. Only a complete idiot could view something like cyclical climate change from the perspective where people are the constant, and nature is the independent variable, when looking at the notion of causality. Seriously!!

If none of this fails to convince you of the wisdom of tagboy’s analysis, then he has only one thing left for. You’re nothing but a “douchbag stinking retarded vermin with a nose full of coke,” or something like that (see “Why John Edwards’ Affair Matters”). And he says this because he’s SERIOUS. Really!! SERIOUSLY!

There are more tag-isms just as funny, and just as sad, but you get the idea.

Don’t waste any time treating him seriously.

]]> By: Taguba http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-73416 Taguba Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:51:05 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/#comment-73416 Wow, we finally "won" right before John McBush is forced to agree to a timeline for withdrawl. LOL you people are hillarious. I thought we won back when the mission accomplished banner was flying out side of a San Diego port. When is McBush going to make the announcment?? i am sure it will be on Thursday at the convention. get your ticker tape ready. *roll eyes* Wow, we finally “won” right before John McBush is forced to agree to a timeline for withdrawl. LOL you people are hillarious. I thought we won back when the mission accomplished banner was flying out side of a San Diego port.

When is McBush going to make the announcment?? i am sure it will be on Thursday at the convention. get your ticker tape ready. *roll eyes*

]]> By: Bob Stapler http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-73402 Bob Stapler Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:39:25 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/#comment-73402 Great article and link to Vets for Freedom. I have added the link to my favorites. Got a real kick from reading their stories and reports. Great article and link to Vets for Freedom. I have added the link to my favorites. Got a real kick from reading their stories and reports.

]]> By: Ivan Ivanovich http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-73399 Ivan Ivanovich Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:51:08 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/#comment-73399 Good piece Gary But, no, they are not "naive? Geopolitically challenged? Clueless? Obtuse?" They are just Democrats and they have made a bad decisions, like we all do sometimes. The anti war, race baiting, pro homosexual, pro abortion, FemiNazi, anti religious, tax the rich, big brother (or sister) agendas do not fit the American way and sooner or later they will see this. Maybe it will be in 2012, after another Carter type presidency by BHO, but it will surly happen because the Democratic Party is one of diverse coalitions and these are very fragile by there nature. We will see on November 4th. Good piece Gary
But, no, they are not “naive? Geopolitically challenged? Clueless? Obtuse?” They are just Democrats and they have made a bad decisions, like we all do sometimes. The anti war, race baiting, pro homosexual, pro abortion, FemiNazi, anti religious, tax the rich, big brother (or sister) agendas do not fit the American way and sooner or later they will see this. Maybe it will be in 2012, after another Carter type presidency by BHO, but it will surly happen because the Democratic Party is one of diverse coalitions and these are very fragile by there nature. We will see on November 4th.

]]> By: Mickey G http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-73398 Mickey G Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:24:24 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/08/31/return-to-samarra-imminent-victory-in-iraq/#comment-73398 Interesting and compelling article. I am posting a link and comments on our VFW blog: http://vfwwebcom.org/nc/post2573/ Interesting and compelling article. I am posting a link and comments on our VFW blog: http://vfwwebcom.org/nc/post2573/

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