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		<title>By: Phillip Ellis Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/09/14/obama-loses-his-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-74022</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Ellis Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ivan:  Maybe I&#039;m just getting old (and getting ready to be out of pocket for a week or two), but I find my level of tolerance for abject stupidity to and partisanship disguised as analytical thought to be near zero.  There’s just so much looney liberalism I can take before the insanity becomes repetitious and insulting to actual thought.

I can’t think of a single self-identified liberal who’s commented over the last couple of years who did more than share his feelings about an issue, rather than engage in a real debate.  Repeating one’s original opinion, contrary to Dr. K’s belief, is not analysis. The only people who’ve actually addressed substantive issues are people like yonkel who describe themselves as moderates.   

Where agreement is not possible, at least there’s clarity.  But there’s no value in just listening to someone’s emotional or partisan opinions, particularly when they cannot, or will not, address any substantive objections that are raised.  The kooks on the Far Right aren’t much better, but at least they make an attempt to explain why they’ve arrived at their conclusions rather than just endlessly repeat their opinions.

Take care, Phil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivan:  Maybe I&#8217;m just getting old (and getting ready to be out of pocket for a week or two), but I find my level of tolerance for abject stupidity to and partisanship disguised as analytical thought to be near zero.  There’s just so much looney liberalism I can take before the insanity becomes repetitious and insulting to actual thought.</p>
<p>I can’t think of a single self-identified liberal who’s commented over the last couple of years who did more than share his feelings about an issue, rather than engage in a real debate.  Repeating one’s original opinion, contrary to Dr. K’s belief, is not analysis. The only people who’ve actually addressed substantive issues are people like yonkel who describe themselves as moderates.   </p>
<p>Where agreement is not possible, at least there’s clarity.  But there’s no value in just listening to someone’s emotional or partisan opinions, particularly when they cannot, or will not, address any substantive objections that are raised.  The kooks on the Far Right aren’t much better, but at least they make an attempt to explain why they’ve arrived at their conclusions rather than just endlessly repeat their opinions.</p>
<p>Take care, Phil</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Ivanovich</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/09/14/obama-loses-his-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-74021</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Ivanovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Phil, it&#039;s so much fun responding to people like Dr. K. I enjoy his left wing reactionary comments. They reveal just how vapid the opposition has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Phil, it&#8217;s so much fun responding to people like Dr. K. I enjoy his left wing reactionary comments. They reveal just how vapid the opposition has become.</p>
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		<title>By: hvance</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/09/14/obama-loses-his-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-74017</link>
		<dc:creator>hvance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After watching the back and forth between PEJ &amp; dr. k., I can only conclude that dr. k&#039;s opinion is only exceeded by his lack of depth in understanding the subject. PEJ has whittled him down to obama-like understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After watching the back and forth between PEJ &amp; dr. k., I can only conclude that dr. k&#8217;s opinion is only exceeded by his lack of depth in understanding the subject. PEJ has whittled him down to obama-like understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Ellis Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/09/14/obama-loses-his-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-74014</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Ellis Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t argue with idiots who only have opinions to offer, and won&#039;t address the substantive objections to their opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t argue with idiots who only have opinions to offer, and won&#8217;t address the substantive objections to their opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Kilovolt</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/09/14/obama-loses-his-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-74013</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Kilovolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Jackson, you are completely incapable of admitting you are wrong or that circumstances have changed, aren&#039;t you? Have you read the news for the last week or two since this little thread began, and watched both McCain and Palin (when we are permitted to see the delicate flower) stumble and bumble through crisis after crisis with several 180 degree turns in position and no clear message, all the while tanking in the polls (even in some of the states you were counting on)?

Do you honestly believe that McCain&#039;s plan to suspend his campaign and parachute into Washington for a photo-op just as negotiations on the bailout package (having gone just fine without him) are wrapping up, is intended to rescue anything other than his campaign, this from the guy who admits he knows nothing about economics?

From where I am sitting, my &quot;opinion,&quot; as you call it, is as reasoned or more so than yours, and certainly more so than the ultimate righty reactionary, Mr. Ivan.

Wait, I forgot:

opinion + Ph.D. = &quot;analysis&quot;

Please forgive me and my lack of post-graduate education. Obviously you must have a firmer grasp on events than my BFA and I am capable of, and anyone who has the audacity to differ with you is clearly ignorant and stupid. How silly of me to think that my feeble intellect could possibly comprehend what is really going in politics or anything else, with a perspicacity such as yours!

Since anyone with your keen insight must have discerned it by now, please enlighten us, Dr. Jackson: what is McCain&#039;s secret plan to convince the electorate that his flailing over the past few days is presidential, while Obama&#039;s calm, collected, reasoning demeanor in the face of the same events (except for the tanking poll numbers, through which he remained calm and collected a couple of weeks ago) is not? What is McCain&#039;s October surprise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Jackson, you are completely incapable of admitting you are wrong or that circumstances have changed, aren&#8217;t you? Have you read the news for the last week or two since this little thread began, and watched both McCain and Palin (when we are permitted to see the delicate flower) stumble and bumble through crisis after crisis with several 180 degree turns in position and no clear message, all the while tanking in the polls (even in some of the states you were counting on)?</p>
<p>Do you honestly believe that McCain&#8217;s plan to suspend his campaign and parachute into Washington for a photo-op just as negotiations on the bailout package (having gone just fine without him) are wrapping up, is intended to rescue anything other than his campaign, this from the guy who admits he knows nothing about economics?</p>
<p>From where I am sitting, my &#8220;opinion,&#8221; as you call it, is as reasoned or more so than yours, and certainly more so than the ultimate righty reactionary, Mr. Ivan.</p>
<p>Wait, I forgot:</p>
<p>opinion + Ph.D. = &#8220;analysis&#8221;</p>
<p>Please forgive me and my lack of post-graduate education. Obviously you must have a firmer grasp on events than my BFA and I am capable of, and anyone who has the audacity to differ with you is clearly ignorant and stupid. How silly of me to think that my feeble intellect could possibly comprehend what is really going in politics or anything else, with a perspicacity such as yours!</p>
<p>Since anyone with your keen insight must have discerned it by now, please enlighten us, Dr. Jackson: what is McCain&#8217;s secret plan to convince the electorate that his flailing over the past few days is presidential, while Obama&#8217;s calm, collected, reasoning demeanor in the face of the same events (except for the tanking poll numbers, through which he remained calm and collected a couple of weeks ago) is not? What is McCain&#8217;s October surprise?</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Ellis Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip Ellis Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr.K.

This isn&#039;t the Huffington Post.  People come here to debate issues, not share emotions.

You are completely incapable of offering anything other than your feelings and opinion, aren&#039;t you? Most people would be embarrassed by having their lack of substance repeatedly pointed out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr.K.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t the Huffington Post.  People come here to debate issues, not share emotions.</p>
<p>You are completely incapable of offering anything other than your feelings and opinion, aren&#8217;t you? Most people would be embarrassed by having their lack of substance repeatedly pointed out.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Ivanovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan Ivanovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Doc. That&#039;s how I do it. I was tempted to use the common word most white people will be thinking about when they mark their ballot on Nov. 4th, but we all know that the First Amendment does not apply to words starting with N.
Some voters will even be thinking they should vote for Obama because of his skin color, but the image of Rev. Wright will be bouncing around in their heads. 

Perhaps they will remember the words of your candidate:
“A steady attack on the white race . . . served as the ballast that could prevent the ideas of personal and communal responsibility from tipping into an ocean of despair.” Barack Obama, Dreams From My Father

Then they will recall that it was Obama who injected race into this election and say to themselves &quot;Oh crap, I&#039;ll go for the war hero&quot;.

Do you really think that &quot;intellectual&quot; means that we should ignore certain salient attributes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Doc. That&#8217;s how I do it. I was tempted to use the common word most white people will be thinking about when they mark their ballot on Nov. 4th, but we all know that the First Amendment does not apply to words starting with N.<br />
Some voters will even be thinking they should vote for Obama because of his skin color, but the image of Rev. Wright will be bouncing around in their heads. </p>
<p>Perhaps they will remember the words of your candidate:<br />
“A steady attack on the white race . . . served as the ballast that could prevent the ideas of personal and communal responsibility from tipping into an ocean of despair.” Barack Obama, Dreams From My Father</p>
<p>Then they will recall that it was Obama who injected race into this election and say to themselves &#8220;Oh crap, I&#8217;ll go for the war hero&#8221;.</p>
<p>Do you really think that &#8220;intellectual&#8221; means that we should ignore certain salient attributes?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Kilovolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Kilovolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t take a Ph.D. to see that McCain&#039;s campaign is imploding, Dr. J.

A &quot;black commie,&quot; Ivan? Is that how you demonstrate your &quot;intellectual conservativism?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t take a Ph.D. to see that McCain&#8217;s campaign is imploding, Dr. J.</p>
<p>A &#8220;black commie,&#8221; Ivan? Is that how you demonstrate your &#8220;intellectual conservativism?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Ellis Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/09/14/obama-loses-his-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-74007</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Ellis Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ivan:  Dr. K still hasn&#039;t figured out the difference between a poll of registered voters, vs. likely voters, vs. adults, and has no idea why it matters in what percentage each constituent group is overrepresented or under-represented.

See comments 1, 5 and 6 in http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/09/19/those-who-forget-the-past/#comments.  

It’s boring and tiresome to have an adult conversation with someone who knows nothing about the subject he purports to discuss, and therefore can’t address any substantive challenges to his statements.  

It&#039;s a waste of time to treat a partisan seriously who only wants to share his feelings-based opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivan:  Dr. K still hasn&#8217;t figured out the difference between a poll of registered voters, vs. likely voters, vs. adults, and has no idea why it matters in what percentage each constituent group is overrepresented or under-represented.</p>
<p>See comments 1, 5 and 6 in <a href="http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/09/19/those-who-forget-the-past/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/09/19/those-who-forget-the-past/#comments</a>.  </p>
<p>It’s boring and tiresome to have an adult conversation with someone who knows nothing about the subject he purports to discuss, and therefore can’t address any substantive challenges to his statements.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a waste of time to treat a partisan seriously who only wants to share his feelings-based opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Ivanovich</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/09/14/obama-loses-his-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-74006</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Ivanovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Millivolt

The polls are showing 18% undecided. Translation: That&#039;s 18% that don&#039;t want to admit that they would never vote for a black commie.

Call me if you need me, I&#039;ll be in the 57th state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Millivolt</p>
<p>The polls are showing 18% undecided. Translation: That&#8217;s 18% that don&#8217;t want to admit that they would never vote for a black commie.</p>
<p>Call me if you need me, I&#8217;ll be in the 57th state.</p>
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