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		<title>By: Paul Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece written by Mr. Bob Stapler on Novemebr 8.  The closing paragraph is particularly important to consider.

Go here (if you have not already been): 

http://thevalleytruth.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/the-supreme-court-and-obamas-birth-certificate/

for an[other] interesting and apparently well-thought bit of banter on the matter.

As far as Mr. Walden&#039;s dismissal of the &#039;search for the missing birth certificate&#039; as heading down so many useless rabbit trails (for lack of a simpler/ kinder way to say it), I find his subtle acceptance (admiration?  surely not...) for what may have been a 
&quot;Gramscian Strategy&quot;  a little frustrating, if not disturbing (?).

If that is all it was/ is/ has been, and there truly is nothing more to this birth certificate debacle than a &#039;successful&#039; effort to confuse &#039;the oBama opposition&#039;, the electorate at large, then it presents a potentially even more sinister facet of who oBama and his &#039;team&#039; really are.

For those that did not follow the hyperlink located in paragrph three of the good Mr. Walden&#039;s original post, or who are otherwise unaware of who/ what Mr. Anthony Gramsci was- for a Presidential Candidate to engage in outright 
subversion and deploy tactics that weaken if not undermine the credibility and stature of the office he is hoping to be elected to... Then he MUST be interested in a certain flavor of &#039;change&#039; that even A. Gramsci himslef would be averse to.

And, this &#039;my friends&#039; is truly disconcerting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece written by Mr. Bob Stapler on Novemebr 8.  The closing paragraph is particularly important to consider.</p>
<p>Go here (if you have not already been): </p>
<p><a href="http://thevalleytruth.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/the-supreme-court-and-obamas-birth-certificate/" rel="nofollow">http://thevalleytruth.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/the-supreme-court-and-obamas-birth-certificate/</a></p>
<p>for an[other] interesting and apparently well-thought bit of banter on the matter.</p>
<p>As far as Mr. Walden&#8217;s dismissal of the &#8216;search for the missing birth certificate&#8217; as heading down so many useless rabbit trails (for lack of a simpler/ kinder way to say it), I find his subtle acceptance (admiration?  surely not&#8230;) for what may have been a<br />
&#8220;Gramscian Strategy&#8221;  a little frustrating, if not disturbing (?).</p>
<p>If that is all it was/ is/ has been, and there truly is nothing more to this birth certificate debacle than a &#8216;successful&#8217; effort to confuse &#8216;the oBama opposition&#8217;, the electorate at large, then it presents a potentially even more sinister facet of who oBama and his &#8216;team&#8217; really are.</p>
<p>For those that did not follow the hyperlink located in paragrph three of the good Mr. Walden&#8217;s original post, or who are otherwise unaware of who/ what Mr. Anthony Gramsci was- for a Presidential Candidate to engage in outright<br />
subversion and deploy tactics that weaken if not undermine the credibility and stature of the office he is hoping to be elected to&#8230; Then he MUST be interested in a certain flavor of &#8216;change&#8217; that even A. Gramsci himslef would be averse to.</p>
<p>And, this &#8216;my friends&#8217; is truly disconcerting.</p>
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		<title>By: Nullifidian</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/11/08/barack-obama-born-in-hawaii/comment-page-1/#comment-74852</link>
		<dc:creator>Nullifidian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Take a minute to look at the first certificate Obama claimed was real. Notice his fathers race is indicated as &quot;AFRICAN&quot;. Check your history on this. In the 60&#039;s, authorities did not use the term &quot;AFRICAN&quot; to describe a newborn&#039;s race.&lt;/i&gt;

Then it&#039;s just as well that they used it instead as a description of his father. Who was an African—as in from Africa.

&lt;i&gt;In the 60&#039;s, the word &quot;NEGRO&quot;, or &quot;COLORED&quot; was used. Looks like the person that forged the document let his own personal (liberal) politically correct posture get in the way of an accurate forgery.&lt;/i&gt;

Or it could be that the person who initially took down the information in 1961 wrote down the accurate information for Barack Obama, Sr.

I didn&#039;t vote for Obama (nor did I vote for McCain), but I am endlessly entertained by these conspiracy scenarios, lawsuits, and legions of amateur document examiners all checking the “kerning”. Please keep it going. I haven&#039;t enjoyed an electoral season quite this much in all my 28 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Take a minute to look at the first certificate Obama claimed was real. Notice his fathers race is indicated as &#8220;AFRICAN&#8221;. Check your history on this. In the 60&#8242;s, authorities did not use the term &#8220;AFRICAN&#8221; to describe a newborn&#8217;s race.</i></p>
<p>Then it&#8217;s just as well that they used it instead as a description of his father. Who was an African—as in from Africa.</p>
<p><i>In the 60&#8242;s, the word &#8220;NEGRO&#8221;, or &#8220;COLORED&#8221; was used. Looks like the person that forged the document let his own personal (liberal) politically correct posture get in the way of an accurate forgery.</i></p>
<p>Or it could be that the person who initially took down the information in 1961 wrote down the accurate information for Barack Obama, Sr.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t vote for Obama (nor did I vote for McCain), but I am endlessly entertained by these conspiracy scenarios, lawsuits, and legions of amateur document examiners all checking the “kerning”. Please keep it going. I haven&#8217;t enjoyed an electoral season quite this much in all my 28 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like we are moving onto the horns of a constitutional dilemma.  The constitution is very explicit in the requirement to hold certain offices but how is this requirement enforced?  Seems like the kind of thing that any citizen could appropriately question but Berg (a Democrat) found out otherwise, at least until the Supremes make some comment.  Maybe out of all of this there will emerge a process for validating that a candidate/incumbent is legitimately meeting constitutional requirements.  Lacking that why have a constitution anyway...oops isn&#039;t that Obama&#039;s position on the constitution it is flawed and must be interpreted by good meaning judges?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like we are moving onto the horns of a constitutional dilemma.  The constitution is very explicit in the requirement to hold certain offices but how is this requirement enforced?  Seems like the kind of thing that any citizen could appropriately question but Berg (a Democrat) found out otherwise, at least until the Supremes make some comment.  Maybe out of all of this there will emerge a process for validating that a candidate/incumbent is legitimately meeting constitutional requirements.  Lacking that why have a constitution anyway&#8230;oops isn&#8217;t that Obama&#8217;s position on the constitution it is flawed and must be interpreted by good meaning judges?</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something simple: Take a minute to look at the first certificate Obama claimed was real.  Notice his fathers race is indicated as &quot;AFRICAN&quot;.  Check your history on this.  In the 60&#039;s, authorities did not use the term &quot;AFRICAN&quot; to describe a newborn&#039;s race.  In the 60&#039;s, the word &quot;NEGRO&quot;, or &quot;COLORED&quot; was used.  Looks like the person that forged the document let his own personal (liberal) politically correct posture get in the way of an accurate forgery.  
Also consider:
1. Why have there been no less than 3 separate certificates posted?  How many do you have?  What kind of person would do such a thing, let alone someone running for leader of the free world.
2. Why has the Obama legal team fought off three separate lawsuits in an effort to block full disclosure?
3. You can get a copy of your own COLB for about $10.00.  Why hasn&#039;t Obama?
4. Why are all of his College records sealed?
Andrew, there are standards for journalism.  Are you a  &quot;journalist&quot;?  If you are trying to be one, step it up a notch.  People want the truth Andrew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something simple: Take a minute to look at the first certificate Obama claimed was real.  Notice his fathers race is indicated as &#8220;AFRICAN&#8221;.  Check your history on this.  In the 60&#8242;s, authorities did not use the term &#8220;AFRICAN&#8221; to describe a newborn&#8217;s race.  In the 60&#8242;s, the word &#8220;NEGRO&#8221;, or &#8220;COLORED&#8221; was used.  Looks like the person that forged the document let his own personal (liberal) politically correct posture get in the way of an accurate forgery.<br />
Also consider:<br />
1. Why have there been no less than 3 separate certificates posted?  How many do you have?  What kind of person would do such a thing, let alone someone running for leader of the free world.<br />
2. Why has the Obama legal team fought off three separate lawsuits in an effort to block full disclosure?<br />
3. You can get a copy of your own COLB for about $10.00.  Why hasn&#8217;t Obama?<br />
4. Why are all of his College records sealed?<br />
Andrew, there are standards for journalism.  Are you a  &#8220;journalist&#8221;?  If you are trying to be one, step it up a notch.  People want the truth Andrew.</p>
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		<title>By: Penguin70</title>
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		<dc:creator>Penguin70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MitchF is right about deb65.  I have been doing my own research on this too.  When I found that 1963 version of a long form birth certificate, I thought, initially, that on section 7c., was what it was stating at first too but saw that it was in fact based on the mother&#039;s residence not the child.
HOWEVER, there still remains serious questions about the authenticity of Obama&#039;s document as shown on several web sites.
Compare the top image presented by his campaign as evidence of Obama&#039;s 1961 birth and the other certifying the birth of one Patricia Decosta (below)

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg

http://www.valeehill.net/genealogy/documents/doc_decosta_pat_birth.jpg

So if he were registered as being born in Hawaii, Barack Obama -- because only he or another member of his immediate family could by law request a &quot;Certification of Live Birth&quot; -- must have a certified paper copy, with embossed stamp and seal, or he could request one. But what his campaign has put forward as genuine, according to the senior spokesman in the relevant department of the State of Hawaii, is not in fact a certified copy. It is not valid. 

Whereas the uncertified Obama document provides the date &quot;filed by registrar&quot;, the certified DeCosta document provides the date &quot;accepted by the registrar.&quot; The difference between filing an application for a Certification of Live Birth and having it accepted may be key here. 
Research has since uncovered the law, in force at the time of Obama&#039;s birth, that were he to have been born in another country, his young American mother&#039;s youth extended time abroad would not suffice to make him a &quot;natural born citizen.&quot; Even if he were naturalized later -- and there is no evidence that he was -- he would not be eligible to run for the office of president and -- if forgery or misrepresentation were involved -- he and his staffers might find themselves facing stiff federal and state charges. 

But if, at this late date, Obama has no proof of being a US citizen by law, natural born or otherwise, then he or his advisers may be tempted to try to &quot;tough out&quot; the allegations about his &quot;birth certificate&quot; or the lack thereof. He and his campaign have gotten through other embarrassments: maybe this one will go away, too.

But now the State of Hawaii has dashed those hopes by clarifying that a certified birth certificate must have an embossed seal and signature, features his claimed birth certificate image lack. 
But until the certified paper birth document is produced -- either by media pressure or a legal challenge in any state -- the fact remains that Obama has not proven that he is a &quot;natural born citizen&quot; eligible to be President according to the Constitution</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MitchF is right about deb65.  I have been doing my own research on this too.  When I found that 1963 version of a long form birth certificate, I thought, initially, that on section 7c., was what it was stating at first too but saw that it was in fact based on the mother&#8217;s residence not the child.<br />
HOWEVER, there still remains serious questions about the authenticity of Obama&#8217;s document as shown on several web sites.<br />
Compare the top image presented by his campaign as evidence of Obama&#8217;s 1961 birth and the other certifying the birth of one Patricia Decosta (below)</p>
<p><a href="http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.valeehill.net/genealogy/documents/doc_decosta_pat_birth.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.valeehill.net/genealogy/documents/doc_decosta_pat_birth.jpg</a></p>
<p>So if he were registered as being born in Hawaii, Barack Obama &#8212; because only he or another member of his immediate family could by law request a &#8220;Certification of Live Birth&#8221; &#8212; must have a certified paper copy, with embossed stamp and seal, or he could request one. But what his campaign has put forward as genuine, according to the senior spokesman in the relevant department of the State of Hawaii, is not in fact a certified copy. It is not valid. </p>
<p>Whereas the uncertified Obama document provides the date &#8220;filed by registrar&#8221;, the certified DeCosta document provides the date &#8220;accepted by the registrar.&#8221; The difference between filing an application for a Certification of Live Birth and having it accepted may be key here.<br />
Research has since uncovered the law, in force at the time of Obama&#8217;s birth, that were he to have been born in another country, his young American mother&#8217;s youth extended time abroad would not suffice to make him a &#8220;natural born citizen.&#8221; Even if he were naturalized later &#8212; and there is no evidence that he was &#8212; he would not be eligible to run for the office of president and &#8212; if forgery or misrepresentation were involved &#8212; he and his staffers might find themselves facing stiff federal and state charges. </p>
<p>But if, at this late date, Obama has no proof of being a US citizen by law, natural born or otherwise, then he or his advisers may be tempted to try to &#8220;tough out&#8221; the allegations about his &#8220;birth certificate&#8221; or the lack thereof. He and his campaign have gotten through other embarrassments: maybe this one will go away, too.</p>
<p>But now the State of Hawaii has dashed those hopes by clarifying that a certified birth certificate must have an embossed seal and signature, features his claimed birth certificate image lack.<br />
But until the certified paper birth document is produced &#8212; either by media pressure or a legal challenge in any state &#8212; the fact remains that Obama has not proven that he is a &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; eligible to be President according to the Constitution</p>
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		<title>By: MitchF</title>
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		<dc:creator>MitchF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deb65 has misread the birth certificate that she attached.  Box 7c is for the &quot;usual residence&quot; of the mother.  The information for the child is limited to the location on Hawaii (for example box 6b is for the &quot;island&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deb65 has misread the birth certificate that she attached.  Box 7c is for the &#8220;usual residence&#8221; of the mother.  The information for the child is limited to the location on Hawaii (for example box 6b is for the &#8220;island&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: jonkon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonkon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republicans are routinely hounded from office on charges far more trivial than this.  It would be most appropriate if Obama was hoisted by his own petard and was droven from office using tactics he himself used to gain power.  This is the kind of issue that is needed to distract his administration from implementing his more substantive, and far more destructive, programs.  As Ann Coulter said, we Rebublicans owe it to Obama to show his the same support that Democrats showed Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans are routinely hounded from office on charges far more trivial than this.  It would be most appropriate if Obama was hoisted by his own petard and was droven from office using tactics he himself used to gain power.  This is the kind of issue that is needed to distract his administration from implementing his more substantive, and far more destructive, programs.  As Ann Coulter said, we Rebublicans owe it to Obama to show his the same support that Democrats showed Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: deb65</title>
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		<dc:creator>deb65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Walden, with all due respect, you have not done all your homework on Obama&#039;s Birth Certificate.

Please note that this is the statement from DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino;
&quot;Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,&quot;
Notice that she says that there is an original there but she is not saying what is ON that original.

Here is an image of a 1963 Hawaiin long form, typewritten vault copy of a birth certificate;

http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg

Notice on section 7c. there is a space to put your County, State OR Foriegn Country that you were born in. Back in the 60&#039;s it was very legal to actually be born someplace else, even another conutry, and still recieve an Hawaiin BC.

 So, with that being said, when and until, Mr. Obama shows this particular document to a panel of judges and forensic specialists, I, for one, will not accept that he is Constitutionally able to sit in the Oval Office as my President.  He and the DNC have had since August to produce this document and have failed to do so. 

The Constituion, the one that our forefathers have bled and died for is to be upheld &quot;the Constitution&#039;s criteria for presidential eligibility are not &#039;suggestions&#039; but instead are mandatory requirements.&quot; 

He who has nothing to hide, hides nothing.

&quot;The public cannot be too curious concerning the characters of public men.&quot; —Samuel Adams</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Walden, with all due respect, you have not done all your homework on Obama&#8217;s Birth Certificate.</p>
<p>Please note that this is the statement from DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino;<br />
&#8220;Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,&#8221;<br />
Notice that she says that there is an original there but she is not saying what is ON that original.</p>
<p>Here is an image of a 1963 Hawaiin long form, typewritten vault copy of a birth certificate;</p>
<p><a href="http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg</a></p>
<p>Notice on section 7c. there is a space to put your County, State OR Foriegn Country that you were born in. Back in the 60&#8242;s it was very legal to actually be born someplace else, even another conutry, and still recieve an Hawaiin BC.</p>
<p> So, with that being said, when and until, Mr. Obama shows this particular document to a panel of judges and forensic specialists, I, for one, will not accept that he is Constitutionally able to sit in the Oval Office as my President.  He and the DNC have had since August to produce this document and have failed to do so. </p>
<p>The Constituion, the one that our forefathers have bled and died for is to be upheld &#8220;the Constitution&#8217;s criteria for presidential eligibility are not &#8216;suggestions&#8217; but instead are mandatory requirements.&#8221; </p>
<p>He who has nothing to hide, hides nothing.</p>
<p>&#8220;The public cannot be too curious concerning the characters of public men.&#8221; —Samuel Adams</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Stapler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Stapler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I don’t recall being particularly obsessed with Obama’s birth certificate as Mr. Walden makes me.  In fact, this will be the very first time I have commented on the subject at all.  Also, I don’t recall conservatives, generally, spending much time on it.  Oh, sure, there are always some who indulge in this kind of speculation, but this one got more attention from Obama’s defenders then his detractors.  It was brought up in these pages once or twice and some discussion given it, but mostly it was decided this is more a problem of Obama holding his cards too close (on this and more substantial matters) for our liking than we were concerned he’s a ‘real’ American.  Our criticism was more for morons who elect anyone without knowing much about them or their real agenda.  Even the guys who dug up the evidence aren’t claiming he wasn’t born in Hawaii.  All they said was the copy posted on Obama’s website has some irregularities suggesting tampering or forgery, and urging Obama either release a certified copy or some other evidence the copy posted is genuine.

The matter of Hawaii denying WND access to Obama’s ‘sealed’ birth record is easily put to rest.  The Governor’s office denied Obama’s records were sealed.  At the same time, Hawaii state law prevents state officials handing out birth records to just anyone.  Subsequent to the Corsi article and on hearing the Hawaii government’s denial, additional requests were made by various interests (including major news media) and denied on the same basis as the WND denial.  So, while technically correct that the record is not sealed (there is no court injunction sealing it, Obama can request and get copies), it is, nonetheless, generally unavailable.  This is confuting a legal term (courts sealing birth records in cases like adoption) with a straightforward complaint; indulging in semantics.  As far as the general public is concerned, Obama’s birth record is off limits; which was the point Corsi made.  Taking this further is whether, in the case of elected officials, we need some better mechanism of public accountability to assure us the person we elect meets the requirements spelled out for the office they seek.  Certainly, that is something inadequately addressed under current practice as demonstrated by this election.  As Presidential elections are governed by each state, the states are the keepers of their own birth records, and it is the states who make the rules under which candidates are allowed on ballots.  Therefore, maybe there should be a provision requiring certification be made by each state&#039;s board of elections including proof of birth prior to placing candidates names on ballots to avoid a repeat of such manipulation in future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I don’t recall being particularly obsessed with Obama’s birth certificate as Mr. Walden makes me.  In fact, this will be the very first time I have commented on the subject at all.  Also, I don’t recall conservatives, generally, spending much time on it.  Oh, sure, there are always some who indulge in this kind of speculation, but this one got more attention from Obama’s defenders then his detractors.  It was brought up in these pages once or twice and some discussion given it, but mostly it was decided this is more a problem of Obama holding his cards too close (on this and more substantial matters) for our liking than we were concerned he’s a ‘real’ American.  Our criticism was more for morons who elect anyone without knowing much about them or their real agenda.  Even the guys who dug up the evidence aren’t claiming he wasn’t born in Hawaii.  All they said was the copy posted on Obama’s website has some irregularities suggesting tampering or forgery, and urging Obama either release a certified copy or some other evidence the copy posted is genuine.</p>
<p>The matter of Hawaii denying WND access to Obama’s ‘sealed’ birth record is easily put to rest.  The Governor’s office denied Obama’s records were sealed.  At the same time, Hawaii state law prevents state officials handing out birth records to just anyone.  Subsequent to the Corsi article and on hearing the Hawaii government’s denial, additional requests were made by various interests (including major news media) and denied on the same basis as the WND denial.  So, while technically correct that the record is not sealed (there is no court injunction sealing it, Obama can request and get copies), it is, nonetheless, generally unavailable.  This is confuting a legal term (courts sealing birth records in cases like adoption) with a straightforward complaint; indulging in semantics.  As far as the general public is concerned, Obama’s birth record is off limits; which was the point Corsi made.  Taking this further is whether, in the case of elected officials, we need some better mechanism of public accountability to assure us the person we elect meets the requirements spelled out for the office they seek.  Certainly, that is something inadequately addressed under current practice as demonstrated by this election.  As Presidential elections are governed by each state, the states are the keepers of their own birth records, and it is the states who make the rules under which candidates are allowed on ballots.  Therefore, maybe there should be a provision requiring certification be made by each state&#8217;s board of elections including proof of birth prior to placing candidates names on ballots to avoid a repeat of such manipulation in future.</p>
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