Re: “What was your point, exactly?”

What is my point? Bush him.

What was your point, exactly? That there’s hypocritical rhetoric on one side? Duh. Thankfully, there’s none on the other.

Fortunately, I’m not a liberal, except in the sense that I disagree with some of y’all on some issues, which is apparently enough, even if I disagree just as much with ‘liberals’ on other issues. Ah, well. I’m getting used to being attacked here for things I never said.

Re: “No, I’m not happy to read about such things. It’s still a little early to reverse everything done in the past seven years, since it hasn’t even been a month yet.”

Now, really, do you think liberals would cut George Bush any slack? I can remember when they wanted the Iraqi war done and over in a week.

And this is what passes for political analysis from the Left. Panetta gives testimony about how such a scenario would actually affect real world policy, but Raymond says it’s still no evidence that it’s a real world option because “people are talking about it”, and well, because they are, Leon had to tell how it this ‘bogus’ option would actually influence Obama’s policy instead of saying “even though you’re talking about it, it’s not real, so there’s no need for me to elaborate.”

Double down on the double down.

By the way, I’m moving any further commentary to the new article I posted.

If he just let everyone in Gitmo go, y’all would be unhappy – as would I. Taking some time to review the procedures and fix ‘em up makes sense. Resolving the whole thing in three weeks… well I don’t think Obama’s superhuman, either.

Generally supporters of the Iraq war say ‘we’ll know more in six months’. Obama’s only asked for four. We’ll see what things are like towards the end of May. No improvement then, I’ll be more upset.

I said “Me, I’m not all sweetness and light about Obama. In this one regard, though, [i.e. torture of detainees and so forth] I can’t see him being worse than the previous administration, and there’s some indication it’ll be better.”

I’m used to creationists quote-mining scientists, removing context to make quotes say something different – often the exact opposite of what was actually said. It’s really disappointing to see you do so, without even a “…” or any acknowledgement that you elided something.

I’m not at all sanguine about Obama’s prospective economic impact – I don’t like it when any one party has a majority. If we’re stuck with a two-party system, I much prefer one party to have the White House and the other to have Congress. Fortunately, I don’t think it’ll be quite as bad as Mr. Webb apparently believes. Communist predictions and reality have never matched up all that well.

As to “If we had a ticking bomb situation…”, since people are asking about it, I’m not surprised that Panetta’s addressing it. That’s a big “if”, though… a Spartan if.

“In this one regard, though, I can’t see him being worse than the previous administration, and there’s some indication it’ll be better.

“I’ll be happy call for impeachment of Obama if cases of torture are revealed without any ticking bombs.”

Hmmmmm:

Military Lawyer: Gitmo Conditions Have Worsened Since Inauguration:

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2009/2/8/172339/8866

The ACLU says the Obama Administration is not bringing change:

Obama Endorses Bush Secrecy On Torture And Rendition (2/4/2009):

http://aclu.org/safefree/torture/38662prs20090204.html

plus ça change?

*** What an asshole. The President’s nominee for the CIA is discussing “ticking time bombs”, but Raymond still maintains that because he, Raymond, hasn’t read about it in the newspaper yet, it can’t be a realistic possibility.

“ ‘If we had a ticking bomb situation, and obviously, whatever was being used I felt was not sufficient, I would not hesitate to go to the president of the United States and request whatever additional authority I would need,’ Mr. Panetta said in his nomination hearing before the Senate Intelligence Committee.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/us/politics/06cia.html?_r=2

Raymond doubles down on his stupid remarks about torture to deny something Leon Panetta is currently testifying about before Congress.