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		<title>By: Thomas E. Brewton</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2009/03/12/power-politics-and-freedom-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-77077</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas E. Brewton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This attempt by Senator McDonald to abrogate the First Amendment doesn&#039;t surprise me.

As a member of one of the City&#039;s boards, my encounters with him while he was Stamford&#039;s corporate counsel revealed him to be an arrogant, unresponsive public servant.  That agency, the Water Pollution Control Authority, was undertaking the largest capital construction project in the City&#039;s history.  I and others wanted to employ legal counsel experienced in real estate construction, just as bank and insurance company lenders do.  Mr. McDonald told us that selecting the counsel was none of our business, that he would do the selecting, with Mayor Malloy&#039;s full backing. 

The firm he selected was the City&#039;s bond counsel, one of the large contributors to the Mayor&#039;s election campaign and subsequently to Mr. McDonald&#039;s initial run for the State Senate.

Mr. McDonald has been the impetus behind trying to legitimize same-sex &quot;marriage.&quot;  His overt assault on the Catholic Church is just another aspect of his long-term drive to impose the secular tenets of ethical humanism and to crush Christianity and religious Judaism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This attempt by Senator McDonald to abrogate the First Amendment doesn&#8217;t surprise me.</p>
<p>As a member of one of the City&#8217;s boards, my encounters with him while he was Stamford&#8217;s corporate counsel revealed him to be an arrogant, unresponsive public servant.  That agency, the Water Pollution Control Authority, was undertaking the largest capital construction project in the City&#8217;s history.  I and others wanted to employ legal counsel experienced in real estate construction, just as bank and insurance company lenders do.  Mr. McDonald told us that selecting the counsel was none of our business, that he would do the selecting, with Mayor Malloy&#8217;s full backing. </p>
<p>The firm he selected was the City&#8217;s bond counsel, one of the large contributors to the Mayor&#8217;s election campaign and subsequently to Mr. McDonald&#8217;s initial run for the State Senate.</p>
<p>Mr. McDonald has been the impetus behind trying to legitimize same-sex &#8220;marriage.&#8221;  His overt assault on the Catholic Church is just another aspect of his long-term drive to impose the secular tenets of ethical humanism and to crush Christianity and religious Judaism.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Ingles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond Ingles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with the author that the government has no business meddling with the financial affairs of a church (unless, say, the church has gone bankrupt and, like any other business or charitable entity, needs oversight).

 (Of course, bills authored directly by lobbyists aren&#039;t new to either Republicans or Democrats.)

But one aside about what milbrat said: &quot;...it is extremely difficult for me to imagine any circumstance where a genetic pre-disposition NOT to breed would be part of a genetic selection process geared toward enhanced species survivability.&quot;

Look up &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterozygote_advantage&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;heterozygote advantage&lt;/a&gt; (e.g. sickle-cell anemia), along with &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_linkage&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;genetic linkage&lt;/a&gt;. A recessive trait can be disadvantageous when two genes are present, but an advantage when only one is present. Or a disadvantageous trait can be &#039;linked&#039; with a more strongly advantageous one, leading to a net advantage for the pair.

 It&#039;s not at all clear either are actually the case for homosexuality, but the idea isn&#039;t utterly ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with the author that the government has no business meddling with the financial affairs of a church (unless, say, the church has gone bankrupt and, like any other business or charitable entity, needs oversight).</p>
<p> (Of course, bills authored directly by lobbyists aren&#8217;t new to either Republicans or Democrats.)</p>
<p>But one aside about what milbrat said: &#8220;&#8230;it is extremely difficult for me to imagine any circumstance where a genetic pre-disposition NOT to breed would be part of a genetic selection process geared toward enhanced species survivability.&#8221;</p>
<p>Look up <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterozygote_advantage" rel="nofollow">heterozygote advantage</a> (e.g. sickle-cell anemia), along with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_linkage" rel="nofollow">genetic linkage</a>. A recessive trait can be disadvantageous when two genes are present, but an advantage when only one is present. Or a disadvantageous trait can be &#8216;linked&#8217; with a more strongly advantageous one, leading to a net advantage for the pair.</p>
<p> It&#8217;s not at all clear either are actually the case for homosexuality, but the idea isn&#8217;t utterly ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: milbrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>milbrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: VOTF and Connecticut

 This is nothing more than an attempt to take over the Catholic Church in Connecticut. One of the beliefs of VOTF; that Jesus wouldn’t specifically reject homosexuality is in direct conflict with Church Doctrine. No wonder two of Connecticut’s openly gay State legislators are leading the charge on this piece of legislation

The most direct manner to ‘control’ an organization is to control the purse strings. Imagine an elected parish ‘corporation’ having total financial control over a parish. As a ‘Cradle Catholic’ I speak from experience when I say that when twelve or so parishioners run for parish elected offices; there are no debates, no town hall meetings, no public statements by the candidates on where their loyalties to Catholic issues may lie. There are usually mimeographed sheets placed in pews with a picture, a short biography, and instructions on how many to vote for.

Talk about a ‘Manchurian’ candidate! Much in the same manner that the most radical members end up in elected positions in a union; the most radical would eventually end up in charge of a church’s finances.

Imagine a solid majority of VOTF members controlling a parish’s financial decisions. They may decide that a pastor who refuses to support homosexuality no longer deserves to draw his living stipend. GLBT groups would be given sanction and offered church property to hold meetings and fund raisers. Catholic school teachers would be subject to new rules regarding hiring, firing, retention, and class syllabus.

The list is literally endless. Catholic philosophy says “Hate the sin, but love the sinner.” That is not enough for the radicals in the gay community. Even mainstreaming of the lifestyle is not enough. Gays argue their position from a civil rights standpoint. They cast themselves as victims in the same light as Hispanics or Blacks, when the fact is that the dispute has nothing to do with civil rights.

I am not going to debate the issue of ‘nature versus nurture’. Suffice it to say that it is extremely difficult for me to imagine any circumstance where a genetic pre-disposition NOT to breed would be part of a genetic selection process geared toward enhanced species survivability.

It is overwhelmingly apparent that gays must recruit in order to advance their numbers, and every demand made by the gay community is made with the idea in mind to increase that opportunity to recruit.

Having said that, I will say this: Society cannot give the gay community what they truly desire: They may say; “We want the right to marry. We desire the right to adopt.” Or, “We wish to pass inheritance of property to spouses. We wish to provide employer medical insurance to our loved ones” Society could, and many cases, has already granted these rights to same sex couples.

But like an insatiable beast; every quarter given is immediately replaced with another demand; a further requirement to ‘mainstream’ the lifestyle. The intention is to not only mainstream the lifestyle, but to actually make the choice of such a lifestyle some type of noble selection; a &#039;higher&#039;, more inclusive decision than just going along with the plumbing you were born with.

At times; the expansion of the rights of homosexuals is elevated above those of the “breeders.” (Yes, they refer to heterosexuals as ‘breeders’ and they mean it to sound every bit as derogatory as it sounds.) Take for example ‘hate crime’ legislation. We’ve come to a place in our society where assaulting a person is not nearly as bad as assaulting a queer. We have come to the point where if you insult me, and I punch you in the nose, I’ve committed battery. If you insult me and I punch you in the nose; and you‘re gay, I’ve committed some type of terrorist act that is now to be punished by years behind bars instead of days.

But none of this gives them comfort. Anything granted by government offers gays no solace, no respite. Even completely squelching all opposition; secular and religious, gives no reprieve. The reason is; we cannot give the gay community what they truly desire.

In the beginning, I stated that one of the tenants of VOTF is that Jesus wouldn’t specifically reject homosexuality. This is the ultimate goal, the definitive purpose of the homosexual movement: Absolution! With all their collective soul; their insatiable thirst is for absolution. This is why acceptance, no matter how complete or how fervent, will never be enough. They desire that which humans cannot give.

Just as a human has no right to condemn, we also have no right to absolve. Absolution is reserved for Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Gays believe ardently, that what feels so absolutely correct to them cannot possibly be rejected; in this life or the next.

That belief has equivalency in this life. We all carry deeply held beliefs regarding our personal morality with us. These philosophical beliefs of ours guide our decisions. They govern the manner in which we live our lives. We all desperately cling to the hope of our eventual salvation. We do our best to be able, upon death, to meet Jesus Christ and withstand His Judgment. I cannot personally condemn or save anyone. Each individual rolls the dice that the sum total of his/her behavior will find favor with God. No matter how much we capitulate to the wishes of the gay community; two things are certain. We cannot assuage their uncertainty; and they will all eventually face a Judgment that neither they nor we can predict.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: VOTF and Connecticut</p>
<p> This is nothing more than an attempt to take over the Catholic Church in Connecticut. One of the beliefs of VOTF; that Jesus wouldn’t specifically reject homosexuality is in direct conflict with Church Doctrine. No wonder two of Connecticut’s openly gay State legislators are leading the charge on this piece of legislation</p>
<p>The most direct manner to ‘control’ an organization is to control the purse strings. Imagine an elected parish ‘corporation’ having total financial control over a parish. As a ‘Cradle Catholic’ I speak from experience when I say that when twelve or so parishioners run for parish elected offices; there are no debates, no town hall meetings, no public statements by the candidates on where their loyalties to Catholic issues may lie. There are usually mimeographed sheets placed in pews with a picture, a short biography, and instructions on how many to vote for.</p>
<p>Talk about a ‘Manchurian’ candidate! Much in the same manner that the most radical members end up in elected positions in a union; the most radical would eventually end up in charge of a church’s finances.</p>
<p>Imagine a solid majority of VOTF members controlling a parish’s financial decisions. They may decide that a pastor who refuses to support homosexuality no longer deserves to draw his living stipend. GLBT groups would be given sanction and offered church property to hold meetings and fund raisers. Catholic school teachers would be subject to new rules regarding hiring, firing, retention, and class syllabus.</p>
<p>The list is literally endless. Catholic philosophy says “Hate the sin, but love the sinner.” That is not enough for the radicals in the gay community. Even mainstreaming of the lifestyle is not enough. Gays argue their position from a civil rights standpoint. They cast themselves as victims in the same light as Hispanics or Blacks, when the fact is that the dispute has nothing to do with civil rights.</p>
<p>I am not going to debate the issue of ‘nature versus nurture’. Suffice it to say that it is extremely difficult for me to imagine any circumstance where a genetic pre-disposition NOT to breed would be part of a genetic selection process geared toward enhanced species survivability.</p>
<p>It is overwhelmingly apparent that gays must recruit in order to advance their numbers, and every demand made by the gay community is made with the idea in mind to increase that opportunity to recruit.</p>
<p>Having said that, I will say this: Society cannot give the gay community what they truly desire: They may say; “We want the right to marry. We desire the right to adopt.” Or, “We wish to pass inheritance of property to spouses. We wish to provide employer medical insurance to our loved ones” Society could, and many cases, has already granted these rights to same sex couples.</p>
<p>But like an insatiable beast; every quarter given is immediately replaced with another demand; a further requirement to ‘mainstream’ the lifestyle. The intention is to not only mainstream the lifestyle, but to actually make the choice of such a lifestyle some type of noble selection; a &#8216;higher&#8217;, more inclusive decision than just going along with the plumbing you were born with.</p>
<p>At times; the expansion of the rights of homosexuals is elevated above those of the “breeders.” (Yes, they refer to heterosexuals as ‘breeders’ and they mean it to sound every bit as derogatory as it sounds.) Take for example ‘hate crime’ legislation. We’ve come to a place in our society where assaulting a person is not nearly as bad as assaulting a queer. We have come to the point where if you insult me, and I punch you in the nose, I’ve committed battery. If you insult me and I punch you in the nose; and you‘re gay, I’ve committed some type of terrorist act that is now to be punished by years behind bars instead of days.</p>
<p>But none of this gives them comfort. Anything granted by government offers gays no solace, no respite. Even completely squelching all opposition; secular and religious, gives no reprieve. The reason is; we cannot give the gay community what they truly desire.</p>
<p>In the beginning, I stated that one of the tenants of VOTF is that Jesus wouldn’t specifically reject homosexuality. This is the ultimate goal, the definitive purpose of the homosexual movement: Absolution! With all their collective soul; their insatiable thirst is for absolution. This is why acceptance, no matter how complete or how fervent, will never be enough. They desire that which humans cannot give.</p>
<p>Just as a human has no right to condemn, we also have no right to absolve. Absolution is reserved for Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Gays believe ardently, that what feels so absolutely correct to them cannot possibly be rejected; in this life or the next.</p>
<p>That belief has equivalency in this life. We all carry deeply held beliefs regarding our personal morality with us. These philosophical beliefs of ours guide our decisions. They govern the manner in which we live our lives. We all desperately cling to the hope of our eventual salvation. We do our best to be able, upon death, to meet Jesus Christ and withstand His Judgment. I cannot personally condemn or save anyone. Each individual rolls the dice that the sum total of his/her behavior will find favor with God. No matter how much we capitulate to the wishes of the gay community; two things are certain. We cannot assuage their uncertainty; and they will all eventually face a Judgment that neither they nor we can predict.</p>
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