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		<title>By: Patrick Mulligan</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2009/06/22/which-side-really-inspires-violence-the-right-or-left/comment-page-1/#comment-78830</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Mulligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;are all on the far far fringe of their respective movements and no one on the moderate left would endorse or use the language or ideas they espouse.&lt;/i&gt;

It doesn&#039;t take much searching to find quotations from the likes of Hillary Cilnton, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, Al Franken, Franklin Roosevelt, Sonya Sotomayor, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, and many other prominent, mainstream liberals that matches perfectly with the revolutionary rhetoric of murderous thugs. The Daily Kos is an online haven of leftist hatred, and their annual conference is attended by the most prominent leaders of the Democratic Party - the party in control of both elected branches of our government. You don&#039;t often see Republican leaders at the Stormfront.org annual conference. 

&lt;i&gt;The views of Roeder and Poplawsk are openly espoused daily by O&#039;Reilly, Beck, and Savage, some of the most watched and listened-too voices in the country.&lt;/i&gt;

Not that the complete and utter ridiculousness and vacuity of this statement isn&#039;t obvious to rational people of any political stripe, but just for fun, please cite ONE example. Cite text from either of those two men along side text from any of the three commentators you mentioned that espouses the same beliefs or ideology (and keep in mind that &quot;the white race will one day rise up against the third world minority onslaught and emerge victorious&quot; is not equatable, by rational human beings, to &quot;refusing to promote white firefighters because they are white is racism&quot;). Please understand that outside of HuffPo exists a world where accusations don&#039;t really have any significant meaning when they aren&#039;t based on reality. Also, it might help if you had ever actually read or listened to commentary from the sources you cite that wasn&#039;t exerpted from MoveOn.org.

&lt;i&gt;No matter how hard they try, PETA won&#039;t ever have enough media saturation to convince some mentally/socially unstable person from truly committing to the whole &quot;meat is murder&quot; thing and deciding to take matters into their own hands for the sake of the cows, much less a whole slew of such people in a span of a month&lt;/i&gt;

Wait, there was a whole slew of right-wing mentally/socially unstable people who committed murder in the span of a month? Weird. Not even the loony lefty blogs picked up on that one. You better get the word out! While you&#039;re at it, you better warn them about the dangerous and violent crimes committed by pro-choice activists - use the data from this totally objective resource: www.abortionviolence.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>are all on the far far fringe of their respective movements and no one on the moderate left would endorse or use the language or ideas they espouse.</i></p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t take much searching to find quotations from the likes of Hillary Cilnton, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, Al Franken, Franklin Roosevelt, Sonya Sotomayor, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, and many other prominent, mainstream liberals that matches perfectly with the revolutionary rhetoric of murderous thugs. The Daily Kos is an online haven of leftist hatred, and their annual conference is attended by the most prominent leaders of the Democratic Party &#8211; the party in control of both elected branches of our government. You don&#8217;t often see Republican leaders at the Stormfront.org annual conference. </p>
<p><i>The views of Roeder and Poplawsk are openly espoused daily by O&#8217;Reilly, Beck, and Savage, some of the most watched and listened-too voices in the country.</i></p>
<p>Not that the complete and utter ridiculousness and vacuity of this statement isn&#8217;t obvious to rational people of any political stripe, but just for fun, please cite ONE example. Cite text from either of those two men along side text from any of the three commentators you mentioned that espouses the same beliefs or ideology (and keep in mind that &#8220;the white race will one day rise up against the third world minority onslaught and emerge victorious&#8221; is not equatable, by rational human beings, to &#8220;refusing to promote white firefighters because they are white is racism&#8221;). Please understand that outside of HuffPo exists a world where accusations don&#8217;t really have any significant meaning when they aren&#8217;t based on reality. Also, it might help if you had ever actually read or listened to commentary from the sources you cite that wasn&#8217;t exerpted from MoveOn.org.</p>
<p><i>No matter how hard they try, PETA won&#8217;t ever have enough media saturation to convince some mentally/socially unstable person from truly committing to the whole &#8220;meat is murder&#8221; thing and deciding to take matters into their own hands for the sake of the cows, much less a whole slew of such people in a span of a month</i></p>
<p>Wait, there was a whole slew of right-wing mentally/socially unstable people who committed murder in the span of a month? Weird. Not even the loony lefty blogs picked up on that one. You better get the word out! While you&#8217;re at it, you better warn them about the dangerous and violent crimes committed by pro-choice activists &#8211; use the data from this totally objective resource: <a href="http://www.abortionviolence.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.abortionviolence.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chasm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Truth is that the Right Wing pundits who espouse quasi-violent and eliminationist rhetoric against liberals have vastly more media power and influence than the far-left radicals who might influence action.  Bledsoe, Kaczynski, Ferguson, Earth-Firsters - and von Brunn, I&#039;ll grant you (though why he is part of this discussion remains unclear, as Walsh did not bring him up as he clearly is a racist nutbag) -  are all on the far far fringe of their respective movements and no one on the moderate left would endorse or use the language or ideas they espouse.

The views of Roeder and Poplawsk are openly espoused daily by O&#039;Reilly, Beck, and Savage, some of the most watched and listened-too voices in the country.  And indeed many who debate on this site use exact same kind of eliminationist language to describe liberals, Democrat politicians, pro-choicers, etc as Roeder and O&#039;Reilly.

No matter how hard they try, PETA won&#039;t ever have enough media saturation to convince some mentally/socially unstable person from truly committing to the whole &quot;meat is murder&quot; thing and deciding to take matters into their own hands for the sake of the cows, much less a whole slew of such people in a span of a month.  But 20+ years of equating liberals with &#039;baby killers&#039; is going to have an effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Truth is that the Right Wing pundits who espouse quasi-violent and eliminationist rhetoric against liberals have vastly more media power and influence than the far-left radicals who might influence action.  Bledsoe, Kaczynski, Ferguson, Earth-Firsters &#8211; and von Brunn, I&#8217;ll grant you (though why he is part of this discussion remains unclear, as Walsh did not bring him up as he clearly is a racist nutbag) &#8211;  are all on the far far fringe of their respective movements and no one on the moderate left would endorse or use the language or ideas they espouse.</p>
<p>The views of Roeder and Poplawsk are openly espoused daily by O&#8217;Reilly, Beck, and Savage, some of the most watched and listened-too voices in the country.  And indeed many who debate on this site use exact same kind of eliminationist language to describe liberals, Democrat politicians, pro-choicers, etc as Roeder and O&#8217;Reilly.</p>
<p>No matter how hard they try, PETA won&#8217;t ever have enough media saturation to convince some mentally/socially unstable person from truly committing to the whole &#8220;meat is murder&#8221; thing and deciding to take matters into their own hands for the sake of the cows, much less a whole slew of such people in a span of a month.  But 20+ years of equating liberals with &#8216;baby killers&#8217; is going to have an effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtesy Arlabon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Courtesy Arlabon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed how after the attack the liberals crowed about their memo, and how they were right all along. As you pointed out he hated Bush, Christianity, and America. I&#039;m sure if the memo had been acted upon, he would have been right on their radar(Sarcasm).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed how after the attack the liberals crowed about their memo, and how they were right all along. As you pointed out he hated Bush, Christianity, and America. I&#8217;m sure if the memo had been acted upon, he would have been right on their radar(Sarcasm).</p>
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		<title>By: milbrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>milbrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Selwyn,

As you say, words can inspire violence. The words may be false or true, they have the same effect. The challenge lies within the person. 

Joan Walsh believes Dr. George Tiller to be a heroic figure. In her world, late term abortion accomplished for a &#039;fig leaf&#039; reason is still legal. Despite overwhelming evidence that Dr. Tiller was actually motivated more by profit than by ideology, the ideologists firmly backed any decision the late doctor made. They felt the indictment and trial of Dr. Tiller in Kansas was the equivalent of a witch hunt.

Liberals always believe they have the moral high ground. Right wingers are not only incorrect; they are, in the mind of the liberal, unspeakably evil. Since we&#039;ve been identified by the liberal establishment as irredeemable, they need not even respond to challenge. Take for instance the current love affair between the MSM and their administration. Does Fox News criticize the President? Yes they do. But since no other outlet has anything but kudos to shower on the administration, Fox is, in the liberal mind, glaringly unfair.

When Newsweek&#039;s Evan Thomas said; &quot;I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country, above – above the world, he’s sort of God.&quot; I&#039;m certain there were left wingers in the country that pointed to this statement as right-wing bias in the press.  I can hear them saying &quot;What do you mean &#039;sort of&#039;&quot;.

Liberals believe in the righteousness of their positions, and believe the other side of the debate is so incorrect that shouting it down or censoring it completely is the only correct thing to do.

If this is not the case then explain this to me. Why is it that liberals believe they can sit down and talk with the Iranians, the Taliban, the North Koreans, Al Qaeda, and the Palestinians? Yet they routinely refuse to converse with conservatives on ANY issue; claiming &quot;conservatives cannot be reasoned with!&quot; Are we really supposed to believe that liberals have more in common with Mid-Eastern Muslims than they do with the Mid-Western residents of the United States? Somehow; liberals believe they have the capacity to converse with the most radicalized people on the planet, but simply cannot even begin to speak with fellow Americans that live across the street.

It&#039;s the equivalent of a small child holding hands over ears, and chanting &quot;Nieener, nienner, nienner!&quot; so they don&#039;t have to hear what&#039;s said.

Not a peep was heard from the left in 1994 when Julianne Malveaux said this about Clarence Thomas. &quot;The man is on the Court. You know, I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease. Well, that’s how I feel. He is an absolutely reprehensible person.&quot;

Nina Totenberg spoke about Jesse Helms in the following manner in 1995; &quot;Not me, I think he ought to be worried about what’s going on in the Good Lord’s mind, because if there is retributive justice, he’ll get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it.&quot;

These are but a few samples of commentary offered by the left. If anything, such comments have gotten progressively (excuse the pun) worse in the last decade or so. Interesting to note that liberals see absolutely nothing wrong with such statements. I don&#039;t believe there is any solution to this dilemma. It is a perception problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selwyn,</p>
<p>As you say, words can inspire violence. The words may be false or true, they have the same effect. The challenge lies within the person. </p>
<p>Joan Walsh believes Dr. George Tiller to be a heroic figure. In her world, late term abortion accomplished for a &#8216;fig leaf&#8217; reason is still legal. Despite overwhelming evidence that Dr. Tiller was actually motivated more by profit than by ideology, the ideologists firmly backed any decision the late doctor made. They felt the indictment and trial of Dr. Tiller in Kansas was the equivalent of a witch hunt.</p>
<p>Liberals always believe they have the moral high ground. Right wingers are not only incorrect; they are, in the mind of the liberal, unspeakably evil. Since we&#8217;ve been identified by the liberal establishment as irredeemable, they need not even respond to challenge. Take for instance the current love affair between the MSM and their administration. Does Fox News criticize the President? Yes they do. But since no other outlet has anything but kudos to shower on the administration, Fox is, in the liberal mind, glaringly unfair.</p>
<p>When Newsweek&#8217;s Evan Thomas said; &#8220;I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country, above – above the world, he’s sort of God.&#8221; I&#8217;m certain there were left wingers in the country that pointed to this statement as right-wing bias in the press.  I can hear them saying &#8220;What do you mean &#8216;sort of&#8217;&#8221;.</p>
<p>Liberals believe in the righteousness of their positions, and believe the other side of the debate is so incorrect that shouting it down or censoring it completely is the only correct thing to do.</p>
<p>If this is not the case then explain this to me. Why is it that liberals believe they can sit down and talk with the Iranians, the Taliban, the North Koreans, Al Qaeda, and the Palestinians? Yet they routinely refuse to converse with conservatives on ANY issue; claiming &#8220;conservatives cannot be reasoned with!&#8221; Are we really supposed to believe that liberals have more in common with Mid-Eastern Muslims than they do with the Mid-Western residents of the United States? Somehow; liberals believe they have the capacity to converse with the most radicalized people on the planet, but simply cannot even begin to speak with fellow Americans that live across the street.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the equivalent of a small child holding hands over ears, and chanting &#8220;Nieener, nienner, nienner!&#8221; so they don&#8217;t have to hear what&#8217;s said.</p>
<p>Not a peep was heard from the left in 1994 when Julianne Malveaux said this about Clarence Thomas. &#8220;The man is on the Court. You know, I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease. Well, that’s how I feel. He is an absolutely reprehensible person.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nina Totenberg spoke about Jesse Helms in the following manner in 1995; &#8220;Not me, I think he ought to be worried about what’s going on in the Good Lord’s mind, because if there is retributive justice, he’ll get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it.&#8221;</p>
<p>These are but a few samples of commentary offered by the left. If anything, such comments have gotten progressively (excuse the pun) worse in the last decade or so. Interesting to note that liberals see absolutely nothing wrong with such statements. I don&#8217;t believe there is any solution to this dilemma. It is a perception problem.</p>
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