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	<title>Comments on: Franken&#8217;s Dubious &#8220;Win&#8221;: A Gloomy Postmortem</title>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After watching this debacle, we have a new expression at our house, &quot;Minnesota stupid&quot;. 

The left has no morals, no attachment to truth, and no decency. All is fair, they think, because they know better than those in the great unwashed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After watching this debacle, we have a new expression at our house, &#8220;Minnesota stupid&#8221;. </p>
<p>The left has no morals, no attachment to truth, and no decency. All is fair, they think, because they know better than those in the great unwashed.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven D. Laib</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven D. Laib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you control the ballot box you control the election.&quot;  And, if you are willing to cheat.  The modern left is always willing to do so while Conservatives and the vast majority of Republicans won&#039;t.  It is a matter of morality; the real versus pretense.  Until middle American stands up and realizes that then we will have repeats of the current fiasco.  Meanwhile, Republicans should clean their house and be ready to use the real morality next election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you control the ballot box you control the election.&#8221;  And, if you are willing to cheat.  The modern left is always willing to do so while Conservatives and the vast majority of Republicans won&#8217;t.  It is a matter of morality; the real versus pretense.  Until middle American stands up and realizes that then we will have repeats of the current fiasco.  Meanwhile, Republicans should clean their house and be ready to use the real morality next election.</p>
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		<title>By: milbrat</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All that being said; I&#039;m really looking forward to the next couple of years in the Senate.

The conventional wisdom is that the Democratic Party is at best, a loosely intertwined amalgamation of special interest groups. The majority of these groups are diametrically opposed to each other.

Look back on the hand-wringing and the animosity created during the last democratic series of primaries. Feminists were firmly in the &#039;Hillary!&#039; camp. While others said &quot;We must seize this opportunity to elect America&#039;s first black president, regardless of his personal qualifications to hold such office.&quot; And &#039;normal&#039; democratic voters were caught in the middle trying to calculate which &#039;victim&#039; group to appease at the expense of the other.

When the Senate was composed of 56 democrats (pre Burris), 2 independents, and 40 republicans the battle cry was &quot;Hang together or we&#039;ll surely hang separately.&quot; Harry Reid had an easy job of keeping the troops in line.

Now the numbers are 58 democrats, 2 independents, and 40 republicans. It is no longer a case of all democrats &#039;staying&#039; in the fold while Harry peels off a RINO or two. Now, each and every democrat sees him/her self as that &#039;magic&#039; cloture vote. They all view themselves as standing on the pinnacle of the mountain of &#039;leverage&#039;. The battle cry now becomes &quot;What&#039;s in it for me?&quot;

Just imagine the circus that will ensue as the Majority Leader makes one futile attempt after another to insert enough patronage to placate each and every democrat in the Senate! They&#039;ll all be fighting like siblings over who got the larger half of that last piece of cake! Each time he gives something to a democrat, no matter how innocuous it may seem another can be counted upon to raise his voice and ask &quot;What about me?&quot;

Each piece of favoritism granted to one senator will be followed immediately by another lamenting voice asking &quot;Please sir, may I have some more? After all; you NEED my vote.&quot; Each and every piece of legislation will end up with so much pork attached, it will be impossible to &#039;conference&#039; the bill without goring someone&#039;s ox. Then the animosity between House and Senate will boil over with the old &quot;You screw my amendment, just wait until yours pops up buddy!&quot;

This promises to be most interesting times for those of us who pay attention to the &#039;goings-on&#039; inside the beltway. Personally, I intend to prepare a large bag of popcorn, extra butter, and sit back and laugh until my sides ache!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that being said; I&#8217;m really looking forward to the next couple of years in the Senate.</p>
<p>The conventional wisdom is that the Democratic Party is at best, a loosely intertwined amalgamation of special interest groups. The majority of these groups are diametrically opposed to each other.</p>
<p>Look back on the hand-wringing and the animosity created during the last democratic series of primaries. Feminists were firmly in the &#8216;Hillary!&#8217; camp. While others said &#8220;We must seize this opportunity to elect America&#8217;s first black president, regardless of his personal qualifications to hold such office.&#8221; And &#8216;normal&#8217; democratic voters were caught in the middle trying to calculate which &#8216;victim&#8217; group to appease at the expense of the other.</p>
<p>When the Senate was composed of 56 democrats (pre Burris), 2 independents, and 40 republicans the battle cry was &#8220;Hang together or we&#8217;ll surely hang separately.&#8221; Harry Reid had an easy job of keeping the troops in line.</p>
<p>Now the numbers are 58 democrats, 2 independents, and 40 republicans. It is no longer a case of all democrats &#8216;staying&#8217; in the fold while Harry peels off a RINO or two. Now, each and every democrat sees him/her self as that &#8216;magic&#8217; cloture vote. They all view themselves as standing on the pinnacle of the mountain of &#8216;leverage&#8217;. The battle cry now becomes &#8220;What&#8217;s in it for me?&#8221;</p>
<p>Just imagine the circus that will ensue as the Majority Leader makes one futile attempt after another to insert enough patronage to placate each and every democrat in the Senate! They&#8217;ll all be fighting like siblings over who got the larger half of that last piece of cake! Each time he gives something to a democrat, no matter how innocuous it may seem another can be counted upon to raise his voice and ask &#8220;What about me?&#8221;</p>
<p>Each piece of favoritism granted to one senator will be followed immediately by another lamenting voice asking &#8220;Please sir, may I have some more? After all; you NEED my vote.&#8221; Each and every piece of legislation will end up with so much pork attached, it will be impossible to &#8216;conference&#8217; the bill without goring someone&#8217;s ox. Then the animosity between House and Senate will boil over with the old &#8220;You screw my amendment, just wait until yours pops up buddy!&#8221;</p>
<p>This promises to be most interesting times for those of us who pay attention to the &#8216;goings-on&#8217; inside the beltway. Personally, I intend to prepare a large bag of popcorn, extra butter, and sit back and laugh until my sides ache!</p>
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