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		<title>By: milbrat</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2009/08/26/is-opposing-obamacare-a-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-79466</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Telling the truth about health care

Let&#039;s review some of the lies that are buried in the health care bills being considered in the House;

We will have to pay for abortions.

Page 30 of HR3200 states that once this legislation becomes law, a government committee will be established to determine the range of benefits to be covered under the plan. None of the benefits have yet to be enumerated, or excluded. The words &#039;Planned Parenthood&#039; don&#039;t have to appear in the text. All benefits will be decided after the bill becomes law. If benefits are to be decided only after the plan becomes law; then literally any medical procedure, including abortion, can be placed on the list any time the committee desires. In this case NOT writing it down has everything to do with it. Apparently; at some future point in time, I guess the government WILL expect the taxpayers to eventually fund &#039;family planning (read abortion) services&#039; on demand.

Obama will ban all private health insurance.

On Page 149 of HR3200, in esoteric “contribution” language, any employer with a payroll of $400,000 or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll as a penalty. The 8% penalty will most certainly be cheaper for the employer to pay than to pay the premium for an employee&#039;s health insurance. So apparently while HR 3200 does not make private health care illegal; it stacks the game against the continued existence of private insurance. This is effectively a BAN on private health care.

Illegal Aliens will not be covered in the program. While there is language within the legislation that states that non-citizens will not be eligable; there is no mechanism in the bill for checking immigration status of anyone applying for the program. Without a specific method for excluding illegal aliens, any alien applying for the benefit risks no chance of exposure. So it looks like a universal health care law WOULD cover illegal aliens.

The government can&#039;t possibly run a healthcare program.

We won&#039;t have to go to the bill to debunk this one. All we have to do is look at history. Medicaid is going broke; Medicare is headed for bankruptcy, as is Social Security. Yet the same people that have run these entitlements into the ground want us to believe they are capable of operating the country&#039;s health care system. The federal entity that brought us the US Post Office and Amtrak wants to control and manage our health care?

The ultimate liar is the President himself

Why be scared of a government program? Barack Obama says that &quot;Medicare is a government program that works really well.&quot; And if we&#039;re able to get something right like Medicare, maybe we should have more confidence about being able to do such a thing for everyone.

On the other hand, the president says that Medicare is unsustainable and running out of money. By the way, unlike your run-of-the-mill politician&#039;s contradictory statements, which are usually separated by months if not years, these weren’t made a year or even weeks apart. They were made in the same speech he gave in Portsmouth N.H.!

Anyway, in order to control costs Obama says we need a new $1.6 trillion government entitlement. It&#039;s a good thing he&#039;s the smartest president ever, not to mention being the greatest orator since Socrates because otherwise one might easily confuse him with some conservative bird-brained holdover from the previous administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telling the truth about health care</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s review some of the lies that are buried in the health care bills being considered in the House;</p>
<p>We will have to pay for abortions.</p>
<p>Page 30 of HR3200 states that once this legislation becomes law, a government committee will be established to determine the range of benefits to be covered under the plan. None of the benefits have yet to be enumerated, or excluded. The words &#8216;Planned Parenthood&#8217; don&#8217;t have to appear in the text. All benefits will be decided after the bill becomes law. If benefits are to be decided only after the plan becomes law; then literally any medical procedure, including abortion, can be placed on the list any time the committee desires. In this case NOT writing it down has everything to do with it. Apparently; at some future point in time, I guess the government WILL expect the taxpayers to eventually fund &#8216;family planning (read abortion) services&#8217; on demand.</p>
<p>Obama will ban all private health insurance.</p>
<p>On Page 149 of HR3200, in esoteric “contribution” language, any employer with a payroll of $400,000 or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll as a penalty. The 8% penalty will most certainly be cheaper for the employer to pay than to pay the premium for an employee&#8217;s health insurance. So apparently while HR 3200 does not make private health care illegal; it stacks the game against the continued existence of private insurance. This is effectively a BAN on private health care.</p>
<p>Illegal Aliens will not be covered in the program. While there is language within the legislation that states that non-citizens will not be eligable; there is no mechanism in the bill for checking immigration status of anyone applying for the program. Without a specific method for excluding illegal aliens, any alien applying for the benefit risks no chance of exposure. So it looks like a universal health care law WOULD cover illegal aliens.</p>
<p>The government can&#8217;t possibly run a healthcare program.</p>
<p>We won&#8217;t have to go to the bill to debunk this one. All we have to do is look at history. Medicaid is going broke; Medicare is headed for bankruptcy, as is Social Security. Yet the same people that have run these entitlements into the ground want us to believe they are capable of operating the country&#8217;s health care system. The federal entity that brought us the US Post Office and Amtrak wants to control and manage our health care?</p>
<p>The ultimate liar is the President himself</p>
<p>Why be scared of a government program? Barack Obama says that &#8220;Medicare is a government program that works really well.&#8221; And if we&#8217;re able to get something right like Medicare, maybe we should have more confidence about being able to do such a thing for everyone.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the president says that Medicare is unsustainable and running out of money. By the way, unlike your run-of-the-mill politician&#8217;s contradictory statements, which are usually separated by months if not years, these weren’t made a year or even weeks apart. They were made in the same speech he gave in Portsmouth N.H.!</p>
<p>Anyway, in order to control costs Obama says we need a new $1.6 trillion government entitlement. It&#8217;s a good thing he&#8217;s the smartest president ever, not to mention being the greatest orator since Socrates because otherwise one might easily confuse him with some conservative bird-brained holdover from the previous administration.</p>
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		<title>By: Mountain Man</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2009/08/26/is-opposing-obamacare-a-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-79465</link>
		<dc:creator>Mountain Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those same 10 commandments that are illegal to put up on a wall in our public schools?</description>
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