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		<title>By: sedonaman</title>
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		<description>Bill:

Re: &quot;Republicans should not to pick a fight with someone who buys his ink by the barrel. We are loved; we can pick a fight with anyone and rely on &#039;ink-by-the-barrel&#039; support.&quot;

Let me just add that Nixon attacked the news media in general and consequently made enemies of them all, whereas 0bama attacked just Fox, which the LeftStream Media [LSM] doesn&#039;t consider &quot;real&quot; journalism, whatever that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill:</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;Republicans should not to pick a fight with someone who buys his ink by the barrel. We are loved; we can pick a fight with anyone and rely on &#8216;ink-by-the-barrel&#8217; support.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let me just add that Nixon attacked the news media in general and consequently made enemies of them all, whereas 0bama attacked just Fox, which the LeftStream Media [LSM] doesn&#8217;t consider &#8220;real&#8221; journalism, whatever that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Wavering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Wavering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven,

In your second paragraph, you make the statement; &quot;The question of why this is happening has confounded a number of people, particularly since it was a major mistake for President Nixon decades ago. But Liberals rarely learn from history, so perhaps the lesson is lost on them.&quot; It&#039;s not that it was lost; they didn&#039;t learn the correct lesson.

Your assumption is that they would have learned not to pick a fight with someone who buys his ink by the barrel. The lesson actually taught to them was; &quot;Republicans should not to pick a fight with someone who buys his ink by the barrel. We are loved; we can pick a fight with anyone and rely on &#039;ink-by-the-barrel&#039; support.&quot;

 They have always assumed safety because of their incestuous relationship with the very same MSM. When Representative Alan Grayson can say the things he has with nary a reprimand from the MSM or his Congressional Leaders; however the howling we got from all quarters of the left over Joe Wilson&#039;s remark during Obama&#039;s last speech before a joint session of Congress were all about his lack of respect and his ignorance of decorum.

I agree with your statement; &quot;Mr. Obama was and is an empty suit. He is able to play the con man, but he is incapable of governing, and has essentially zero leadership ability.&quot; But this situation was delibrately created by the democrats and the MSM over the last decade.

After two lost general elections where the Democrats supported candidates with discernible records; (Gore and Kerry), they decided on a more &#039;stealthy&#039; candidate. After all; they had been making inroads by running &#039;stealth&#039; fiscal conservatives in close Congressional and Senate districts the last four election cycles and had been fairly successful at turning close republican districts democrat by the few points they needed to win.

They realized that one of the &#039;districts&#039; with the narrowest of margins was actually the general electorate. In Barack Obama they found a person so skilled in the art of euphemism and generality that crowds of people literally heard exactly what they wanted to hear; ignoring and discarding the rest. A child of the bureaucracy that purposely spent so little time in any one political office as to leave no record worth analysis. A person of such ephemeral background that one could not even ascertain, with any certainty, his constitutional qualifications for the office he currently held.

This led to the current &#039;Trifecta&#039; we experience today. The liberal/progressives went &#039;all-in&#039; and bet they could take both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue. They knew Obama was the &#039;empty suit&#039; you described him as. They were counting on it. He&#039;s operated just as they supposed he would. THey do the heavy lifting while he uses his &#039;bully pulpit&#039; to discount enemies. The bet is that they can pull the country so leftward prior to the next election cycle that conservatism will be dead an gone; nothing left to conserve.

They figure that by passing their complete agenda, that they will firmly ensconce themselves in power. They know the MSM will not hold them accountable. They know that all these media outlets will print verbatim exactly what the White House tells them to. They also know that they merely have to issue &#039;talking-points&#039; and all the &#039;approved&#039; outlets; i.e. newspapers, national news broadcasts, and even entertainment programming and movies, will echo those points.

There&#039;s an old joke that goes something like this.

An apparatchik hurries into Fidel Castro&#039;s office and says; &quot;Congratulations Leader! You&#039;ve won the election by 95%!&quot;

Fidel says; &quot;Who cares. Such a victory no longer makes me feel happy.&quot;

The apparatchik, not liking the sight of his leader&#039;s saddness says; &quot;If 95% of the people voting in favor of you cannot make you smile, what would?&quot;

Fidel responds; &quot;The name&#039;s of that remaining 5%.&quot;

This White House has gotten used to four things;

•	Being able to do whatever it wants. This certainly includes &#039;outsourcing&#039; all the heavy lifting to Congressmen, Senators, and Bureaucrats. 
•	All aspects (broadcast, print, television programming, and Hollywood) of the media singing &quot;Hosannas&#039; over absolutely everything and anything the administration says or does.
•	Immediately throwing absolutely anyone under the bus as soon as it has been determined that their usefulness is at an end..
•	Committing &#039;serial&#039; marginalization of any opponent; or series of opponents, especially a former associate read Panetta and the CIA) if it serves present purpose.

The first point is proven by actions taken in Congress since the inauguration. TARP was completely run by Tim Geithner. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid wrote the Stimulus Bill. Ditto for the Omnibus Spending Package. Congressmen Markey and Waxman wrote cap &amp; trade, and while both Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have been herding their respective health care bills through their respective houses; to the best of my knowledge, there is no Obama Health Care bill. Leadership is so lacking, that the President has been ignoring his own appointed Afghan Commander&#039;s troop request; while more soldiers in the battle space are killed each day while he calculates the political aspects of ANY decision.

The second point is proven by the MSM&#039;s reaction to Joe Wilson (of the &quot;You Lie!&quot; fame) as compared to the lack of reaction to Alan Grayson&#039;s recent comments. It is buttressed further by the MSM&#039;s reaction to Afghanistan, where circumspection is now the correct course, while during the previous administration the cry was &quot;Quagmire! Do something, anything, immediately!&quot;

The third point is clarified by the treatment, by both the administration and their cohorts, to the people who attended the recent T.E.A. Parties. Remember not so long ago when dissent was &#039;the highest form of patriotism&#039;? Now dissenters are &#039;Nazis&#039;, &#039;Astro-turf &#039;, and &#039;tea-bagging red-necks&#039;.

The third point is proven by the likes of Van Jones, Obama&#039;s own grand-mother, and a plethora of other associates, including a former pastor. All no longer a credit to the administration or campaign, and all jettisoned as soon as they looked as if they may become a liability.

The fourth point is proven just by looking at the health care debacle. First, it was health care reform because of the &#039;evil drug companies&#039;. Then the enemy morphed into the &#039;greedy doctors&#039; removing the tonsils of children and feet of diabetics because they needed a Mercedes payment. Now, the enemy has altered state once again and has become the &#039;profiteering insurance industry&#039;. Even as the health care insurance industry&#039;s average profit is shown to be 2.2%; just slightly, I might add, above the evil oil industry&#039;s average of 2.1%

They&#039;ve become like Castro&#039;s joke; despondent over the fact that out of six major news broadcasting companies, one does not reflexively spew the party line.

Step four doesn’t&#039; seem to work well against Fox News. They try marginalizing them and their ratings go up. They appear on the talk shows and declare Fox not to be a &#039;real&#039; news organization. They announce a &#039;boycott&#039; by the President and senior White House officials; leading the public to ask; &quot;If they cannot talk to Fox, how are we supposed to believe them capable of negotiating with some of the most radicalized regimes on the planet?&quot;

Believing that they wholly own the other media outlets, they tell these outlets of an exclusive interview opportunity with an administrative czar; and of the administration&#039;s intention to have the media broadcast pool to further prove their loyalty by abrogating the pool agreement with Fox. I was rather surprised it backfired. They probably would have won this as well if they had only passed a bailout for the foundering news agencies first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,</p>
<p>In your second paragraph, you make the statement; &#8220;The question of why this is happening has confounded a number of people, particularly since it was a major mistake for President Nixon decades ago. But Liberals rarely learn from history, so perhaps the lesson is lost on them.&#8221; It&#8217;s not that it was lost; they didn&#8217;t learn the correct lesson.</p>
<p>Your assumption is that they would have learned not to pick a fight with someone who buys his ink by the barrel. The lesson actually taught to them was; &#8220;Republicans should not to pick a fight with someone who buys his ink by the barrel. We are loved; we can pick a fight with anyone and rely on &#8216;ink-by-the-barrel&#8217; support.&#8221;</p>
<p> They have always assumed safety because of their incestuous relationship with the very same MSM. When Representative Alan Grayson can say the things he has with nary a reprimand from the MSM or his Congressional Leaders; however the howling we got from all quarters of the left over Joe Wilson&#8217;s remark during Obama&#8217;s last speech before a joint session of Congress were all about his lack of respect and his ignorance of decorum.</p>
<p>I agree with your statement; &#8220;Mr. Obama was and is an empty suit. He is able to play the con man, but he is incapable of governing, and has essentially zero leadership ability.&#8221; But this situation was delibrately created by the democrats and the MSM over the last decade.</p>
<p>After two lost general elections where the Democrats supported candidates with discernible records; (Gore and Kerry), they decided on a more &#8216;stealthy&#8217; candidate. After all; they had been making inroads by running &#8216;stealth&#8217; fiscal conservatives in close Congressional and Senate districts the last four election cycles and had been fairly successful at turning close republican districts democrat by the few points they needed to win.</p>
<p>They realized that one of the &#8216;districts&#8217; with the narrowest of margins was actually the general electorate. In Barack Obama they found a person so skilled in the art of euphemism and generality that crowds of people literally heard exactly what they wanted to hear; ignoring and discarding the rest. A child of the bureaucracy that purposely spent so little time in any one political office as to leave no record worth analysis. A person of such ephemeral background that one could not even ascertain, with any certainty, his constitutional qualifications for the office he currently held.</p>
<p>This led to the current &#8216;Trifecta&#8217; we experience today. The liberal/progressives went &#8216;all-in&#8217; and bet they could take both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue. They knew Obama was the &#8216;empty suit&#8217; you described him as. They were counting on it. He&#8217;s operated just as they supposed he would. THey do the heavy lifting while he uses his &#8216;bully pulpit&#8217; to discount enemies. The bet is that they can pull the country so leftward prior to the next election cycle that conservatism will be dead an gone; nothing left to conserve.</p>
<p>They figure that by passing their complete agenda, that they will firmly ensconce themselves in power. They know the MSM will not hold them accountable. They know that all these media outlets will print verbatim exactly what the White House tells them to. They also know that they merely have to issue &#8216;talking-points&#8217; and all the &#8216;approved&#8217; outlets; i.e. newspapers, national news broadcasts, and even entertainment programming and movies, will echo those points.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an old joke that goes something like this.</p>
<p>An apparatchik hurries into Fidel Castro&#8217;s office and says; &#8220;Congratulations Leader! You&#8217;ve won the election by 95%!&#8221;</p>
<p>Fidel says; &#8220;Who cares. Such a victory no longer makes me feel happy.&#8221;</p>
<p>The apparatchik, not liking the sight of his leader&#8217;s saddness says; &#8220;If 95% of the people voting in favor of you cannot make you smile, what would?&#8221;</p>
<p>Fidel responds; &#8220;The name&#8217;s of that remaining 5%.&#8221;</p>
<p>This White House has gotten used to four things;</p>
<p>•	Being able to do whatever it wants. This certainly includes &#8216;outsourcing&#8217; all the heavy lifting to Congressmen, Senators, and Bureaucrats.<br />
•	All aspects (broadcast, print, television programming, and Hollywood) of the media singing &#8220;Hosannas&#8217; over absolutely everything and anything the administration says or does.<br />
•	Immediately throwing absolutely anyone under the bus as soon as it has been determined that their usefulness is at an end..<br />
•	Committing &#8216;serial&#8217; marginalization of any opponent; or series of opponents, especially a former associate read Panetta and the CIA) if it serves present purpose.</p>
<p>The first point is proven by actions taken in Congress since the inauguration. TARP was completely run by Tim Geithner. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid wrote the Stimulus Bill. Ditto for the Omnibus Spending Package. Congressmen Markey and Waxman wrote cap &amp; trade, and while both Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have been herding their respective health care bills through their respective houses; to the best of my knowledge, there is no Obama Health Care bill. Leadership is so lacking, that the President has been ignoring his own appointed Afghan Commander&#8217;s troop request; while more soldiers in the battle space are killed each day while he calculates the political aspects of ANY decision.</p>
<p>The second point is proven by the MSM&#8217;s reaction to Joe Wilson (of the &#8220;You Lie!&#8221; fame) as compared to the lack of reaction to Alan Grayson&#8217;s recent comments. It is buttressed further by the MSM&#8217;s reaction to Afghanistan, where circumspection is now the correct course, while during the previous administration the cry was &#8220;Quagmire! Do something, anything, immediately!&#8221;</p>
<p>The third point is clarified by the treatment, by both the administration and their cohorts, to the people who attended the recent T.E.A. Parties. Remember not so long ago when dissent was &#8216;the highest form of patriotism&#8217;? Now dissenters are &#8216;Nazis&#8217;, &#8216;Astro-turf &#8216;, and &#8216;tea-bagging red-necks&#8217;.</p>
<p>The third point is proven by the likes of Van Jones, Obama&#8217;s own grand-mother, and a plethora of other associates, including a former pastor. All no longer a credit to the administration or campaign, and all jettisoned as soon as they looked as if they may become a liability.</p>
<p>The fourth point is proven just by looking at the health care debacle. First, it was health care reform because of the &#8216;evil drug companies&#8217;. Then the enemy morphed into the &#8216;greedy doctors&#8217; removing the tonsils of children and feet of diabetics because they needed a Mercedes payment. Now, the enemy has altered state once again and has become the &#8216;profiteering insurance industry&#8217;. Even as the health care insurance industry&#8217;s average profit is shown to be 2.2%; just slightly, I might add, above the evil oil industry&#8217;s average of 2.1%</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve become like Castro&#8217;s joke; despondent over the fact that out of six major news broadcasting companies, one does not reflexively spew the party line.</p>
<p>Step four doesn’t&#8217; seem to work well against Fox News. They try marginalizing them and their ratings go up. They appear on the talk shows and declare Fox not to be a &#8216;real&#8217; news organization. They announce a &#8216;boycott&#8217; by the President and senior White House officials; leading the public to ask; &#8220;If they cannot talk to Fox, how are we supposed to believe them capable of negotiating with some of the most radicalized regimes on the planet?&#8221;</p>
<p>Believing that they wholly own the other media outlets, they tell these outlets of an exclusive interview opportunity with an administrative czar; and of the administration&#8217;s intention to have the media broadcast pool to further prove their loyalty by abrogating the pool agreement with Fox. I was rather surprised it backfired. They probably would have won this as well if they had only passed a bailout for the foundering news agencies first.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Ivanovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan Ivanovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I object to your use of the term &quot;modern left&quot;. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn describes, in the Red Wheel, the same kind of tactics used by the Bolsheviks in 1916. Others write about the same thing as far back as 1850.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I object to your use of the term &#8220;modern left&#8221;. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn describes, in the Red Wheel, the same kind of tactics used by the Bolsheviks in 1916. Others write about the same thing as far back as 1850.</p>
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