Comments on: On Health Care; the President orders; “Ramming Speed” http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2010/03/11/on-health-care-the-president-orders-%e2%80%9cramming-speed%e2%80%9d/ Conservative and Libertarian Intellectual Philosophy and Politics Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:00:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Analysis: Obama at the crossroads – The Daily Maverick « El Bibu Health Insurance http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2010/03/11/on-health-care-the-president-orders-%e2%80%9cramming-speed%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-82378 Analysis: Obama at the crossroads – The Daily Maverick « El Bibu Health Insurance Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:53:53 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/?p=7554#comment-82378 [...] line from Consumer Reports and what to doThe Hill (blog)House vote to take place March 20?msnbc.comOn Health Care; the President orders; “Ramming Speed”Intellectual ConservativeShreveport Timesall 2,986 news [...] [...] line from Consumer Reports and what to doThe Hill (blog)House vote to take place March 20?msnbc.comOn Health Care; the President orders; “Ramming Speed”Intellectual ConservativeShreveport Timesall 2,986 news [...]

]]> By: Bill Wavering http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2010/03/11/on-health-care-the-president-orders-%e2%80%9cramming-speed%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-82357 Bill Wavering Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:54:03 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/?p=7554#comment-82357 Last I heard, after adding the student loan program to the existing bill Nancy was @ five votes short in the House. I figure once she gets within two, she'll schedule a vote, drag it out as long as she can, and exert some real pressure to get those two final votes. The real problem is figuring out which two she'll be leaning on so opposing pressure may be applied. Last I heard, after adding the student loan program to the existing bill Nancy was @ five votes short in the House. I figure once she gets within two, she’ll schedule a vote, drag it out as long as she can, and exert some real pressure to get those two final votes. The real problem is figuring out which two she’ll be leaning on so opposing pressure may be applied.

]]> By: From Inwood http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2010/03/11/on-health-care-the-president-orders-%e2%80%9cramming-speed%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-82346 From Inwood Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:44:25 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/?p=7554#comment-82346 Hey, <i>The White House Kindly Requests You Do Not Refer to Its Health Care Budget Gimmicks as "Gimmicks"</i> http://reason.com/blog/2010/03/11/budget-gimmicks Levin seeks Louise Slaughter’s expulsion from Congress. http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/201/03/mark-levin-calls-for-slaughters-removal.html Hey,

The White House Kindly Requests You Do Not Refer to Its Health Care Budget Gimmicks as “Gimmicks”

http://reason.com/blog/2010/03/11/budget-gimmicks

Levin seeks Louise Slaughter’s expulsion from Congress.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/201/03/mark-levin-calls-for-slaughters-removal.html

]]> By: From Inwood http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2010/03/11/on-health-care-the-president-orders-%e2%80%9cramming-speed%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-82329 From Inwood Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:59:06 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/?p=7554#comment-82329 Progressive House Dem Chair likes "'Slaughter Solution' so they won't be "forced" to vote on Sen Bill <i>On ABC’s “Top Line” today, Rep. Lynn Woolsey, co-chair of the House Progressive Caucus, said that scenario is attractive to many House Democrats who have serious reservations about the Senate bill. “I don’t need to see my colleagues vote for the Senate bill in the House. We don’t like the Senate bill. Why should we be forced to do that?” said Woolsey, D-Calif. “But what we need to know, before any Senate bill is passed, that we have enough of the fixes that we’ve asked for, that we will be satisfied with the final product as a beginning for health care [reform].” Asked if she would be comfortable with the House voting to deem the bill passed, rather than actually taking a recorded vote on the Senate-passed bill, Woolsey said: “I would be OK with that.”</i> http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2010/03/dem-rep-lynn-woolsey-house-may-pass-senate-bill-without-recorded-vote.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Progressive House Dem Chair likes “‘Slaughter Solution’ so they won’t be “forced” to vote on Sen Bill

On ABC’s “Top Line” today, Rep. Lynn Woolsey, co-chair of the House Progressive Caucus, said that scenario is attractive to many House Democrats who have serious reservations about the Senate bill.

“I don’t need to see my colleagues vote for the Senate bill in the House. We don’t like the Senate bill. Why should we be forced to do that?” said Woolsey, D-Calif. “But what we need to know, before any Senate bill is passed, that we have enough of the fixes that we’ve asked for, that we will be satisfied with the final product as a beginning for health care [reform].”
Asked if she would be comfortable with the House voting to deem the bill passed, rather than actually taking a recorded vote on the Senate-passed bill, Woolsey said: “I would be OK with that.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2010/03/dem-rep-lynn-woolsey-house-may-pass-senate-bill-without-recorded-vote.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

]]> By: Bill Wavering http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2010/03/11/on-health-care-the-president-orders-%e2%80%9cramming-speed%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-82328 Bill Wavering Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:56:06 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/?p=7554#comment-82328 According to the Washington Examiner House Rules Chairwoman Louise Slaughter is prepping to help usher the healthcare overhaul through the House and potentially avoid a direct vote on the Senate overhaul bill. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/House-Democrats-looking-at-Slaughter-Solution-to-pass-Obamacare-without-a-vote-on-Senate-bill-87267402.html Each bill that comes before the House for a vote on final passage must be given a rule that determines things like whether the minority would be able to offer amendments to it from the floor. In the "Slaughter Solution", the rule would declare that the House "deems" the Senate version of Obamacare to have been passed by the House. House members would still have to vote on whether to accept the rule, but they would then be able to say they only voted for a rule, not for the bill itself. Absolutely amazing! Let's write a rule that says a bill we never voted on has actually been 'passed' by the House so we can go to our constituents and say; "We never voted for the bill, we just voted for the rule." Do any of these House democrats really believe that is going to make a dime's worth of difference to the American people? According to the Washington Examiner House Rules Chairwoman Louise Slaughter is prepping to help usher the healthcare overhaul through the House and potentially avoid a direct vote on the Senate overhaul bill.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/House-Democrats-looking-at-Slaughter-Solution-to-pass-Obamacare-without-a-vote-on-Senate-bill-87267402.html Each bill that comes before the House for a vote on final passage must be given a rule that determines things like whether the minority would be able to offer amendments to it from the floor.

In the “Slaughter Solution”, the rule would declare that the House “deems” the Senate version of Obamacare to have been passed by the House. House members would still have to vote on whether to accept the rule, but they would then be able to say they only voted for a rule, not for the bill itself.

Absolutely amazing! Let’s write a rule that says a bill we never voted on has actually been ‘passed’ by the House so we can go to our constituents and say; “We never voted for the bill, we just voted for the rule.” Do any of these House democrats really believe that is going to make a dime’s worth of difference to the American people?

]]> By: From Inwood http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2010/03/11/on-health-care-the-president-orders-%e2%80%9cramming-speed%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-82323 From Inwood Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:01:28 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/?p=7554#comment-82323 Pass Obamacare! OBAMACARE; TOO BIG TO FAIL! <i>Democrats could use more enthusiasm, says Jonathan Chait: “Democrats face an enormous problem here. The electorate that shows up in November could be far more Republican than the electorate as a whole. In these circumstances, it seems like the party’s number one imperative has to be shoring up the base and giving its voters a reason to go to the polls in November.” His solution: pass ObamaCare! Which, of course, will only fire up conservatives even more.</i> http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/category/contentions Pass Obamacare!

OBAMACARE; TOO BIG TO FAIL!

Democrats could use more enthusiasm, says Jonathan Chait: “Democrats face an enormous problem here. The electorate that shows up in November could be far more Republican than the electorate as a whole. In these circumstances, it seems like the party’s number one imperative has to be shoring up the base and giving its voters a reason to go to the polls in November.” His solution: pass ObamaCare! Which, of course, will only fire up conservatives even more.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/category/contentions

]]> By: From Inwood http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2010/03/11/on-health-care-the-president-orders-%e2%80%9cramming-speed%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-82322 From Inwood Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:56:57 +0000 http://www.intellectualconservative.com/?p=7554#comment-82322 Can we say that the Dems need some "espirit da corpse"? Well, not yet. Don't get overconfident. Pelosi to Rahm: Cool it with the deadlines http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0310/Waxman_House_doesnt_want_a_deadline.html#LAM & MM But THEY know better. See, e.g., <i.NYS Law proposed to prohibit salt in food prepared by restaurants. http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?default_fld=&bn=+A10129%09%09&Summary=Y&Memo=Y&Text=Y H/T Althouse OK, it’ll never be adopted. Right. Hey, is this "settled science"? Actually, I blame Nixon. Anyway, in regard to counting the votes, Michael Barone has a WSJ article today in which after some analysis, he concludes that he doesn't think that Nancy has the votes: <i>OPINION MARCH 11, 2010. Can Nancy Pelosi Get the Votes? The Senate bill's abortion language is not the House Speaker's only problem.</i> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703701004575113292688090292.html Can we say that the Dems need some “espirit da corpse”?

Well, not yet. Don’t get overconfident.

Pelosi to Rahm: Cool it with the deadlines
http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0310/Waxman_House_doesnt_want_a_deadline.html#LAM & MM

But THEY know better.

See, e.g.,

<i.NYS Law proposed to prohibit salt in food prepared by restaurants.

http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?default_fld=&bn=+A10129%09%09&Summary=Y&Memo=Y&Text=Y

H/T Althouse

OK, it’ll never be adopted. Right.

Hey, is this “settled science”?

Actually, I blame Nixon.

Anyway, in regard to counting the votes, Michael Barone has a WSJ article today in which after some analysis, he concludes that he doesn’t think that Nancy has the votes:

OPINION MARCH 11, 2010.
Can Nancy Pelosi Get the Votes?

The Senate bill’s abortion language is not the House
Speaker’s only problem.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703701004575113292688090292.html

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