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		<title>By: hvance</title>
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		<dc:creator>hvance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anastunya,

Your depth of knowledge of the Fair Tax does not merit an explanation to your comment. I would recommend you reading the book but that is apparently beyond you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anastunya,</p>
<p>Your depth of knowledge of the Fair Tax does not merit an explanation to your comment. I would recommend you reading the book but that is apparently beyond you.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Wavering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Wavering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anastunya,

Nothing like proving one’s own point within the same comment, huh? “How can &quot;intellectuals&quot; promote this? As the old Italian man from Blawnox, PA said, &quot;A-more school, a-more dumb!&quot;” What do you think; maybe before commenting you should actually read the book?
http://www.amazon.com/FairTax-Answering-Critics-Neal-Boortz/dp/0061540463 

If the tax were to be enacted without any other constitutional adjustment you would be correct. However; the actual Fair Tax proposal calls for the overturning of the 16th Amendment, passing a subsequent amendment permanently banning an income tax, as well as the disbanding of the IRS prior to the enactment of the Fair Tax.

As you say a-more school, a-more dumb. Next time try a little research. If that’s just too much trouble, you could try reading the first two posts on this thread! One must reasonably wonder just how insightful a comment is if they cannot even be bothered to do that much prior to scrabbling across their keyboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anastunya,</p>
<p>Nothing like proving one’s own point within the same comment, huh? “How can &#8220;intellectuals&#8221; promote this? As the old Italian man from Blawnox, PA said, &#8220;A-more school, a-more dumb!&#8221;” What do you think; maybe before commenting you should actually read the book?<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/FairTax-Answering-Critics-Neal-Boortz/dp/0061540463" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/FairTax-Answering-Critics-Neal-Boortz/dp/0061540463</a> </p>
<p>If the tax were to be enacted without any other constitutional adjustment you would be correct. However; the actual Fair Tax proposal calls for the overturning of the 16th Amendment, passing a subsequent amendment permanently banning an income tax, as well as the disbanding of the IRS prior to the enactment of the Fair Tax.</p>
<p>As you say a-more school, a-more dumb. Next time try a little research. If that’s just too much trouble, you could try reading the first two posts on this thread! One must reasonably wonder just how insightful a comment is if they cannot even be bothered to do that much prior to scrabbling across their keyboard.</p>
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		<title>By: anastunya</title>
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		<dc:creator>anastunya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Fair Tax&quot; is just another name for a Value Added Tax, the statist European way to tax the serfs without them realizing it.  How can &quot;intellectuals&quot; promote this? As the old Italian man from Blawnox, PA said, &quot;A-more school, a-more dumb!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Fair Tax&#8221; is just another name for a Value Added Tax, the statist European way to tax the serfs without them realizing it.  How can &#8220;intellectuals&#8221; promote this? As the old Italian man from Blawnox, PA said, &#8220;A-more school, a-more dumb!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sedonaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>sedonaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a thought: Since the average taxpayer&#039;s main concern is to hurt &quot;the rich&quot;, and the government needs money to operate, why not replace the collection of taxes with the government just printing the money it needs? Since the poor have little money and the rich have a lot, it will hurt the rich a lot more than the poor, and there would be no need to devote a lot of GDP to comply with a complex code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a thought: Since the average taxpayer&#8217;s main concern is to hurt &#8220;the rich&#8221;, and the government needs money to operate, why not replace the collection of taxes with the government just printing the money it needs? Since the poor have little money and the rich have a lot, it will hurt the rich a lot more than the poor, and there would be no need to devote a lot of GDP to comply with a complex code.</p>
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		<title>By: hvance</title>
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		<dc:creator>hvance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill W. &amp; Sedonaman,
On the trifecta: As we have discussed, once you murder the second time around is easier. There is the possibility of crap and trade and the voting bill being done this year. If it does happen and we are allowed to vote in November, then I think that there will be hell to pay for the incumbents. Who knows? 
As for Sedonaman&#039;s concern over sending money to Mexico because they had a ss #, it might be that since they were legal and had a card they could be scrutinized to see if they were working. Make it so the employer had to report any legal alien working in order for him to get the check. It might not be perfect but it beats what we have now by light years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill W. &amp; Sedonaman,<br />
On the trifecta: As we have discussed, once you murder the second time around is easier. There is the possibility of crap and trade and the voting bill being done this year. If it does happen and we are allowed to vote in November, then I think that there will be hell to pay for the incumbents. Who knows?<br />
As for Sedonaman&#8217;s concern over sending money to Mexico because they had a ss #, it might be that since they were legal and had a card they could be scrutinized to see if they were working. Make it so the employer had to report any legal alien working in order for him to get the check. It might not be perfect but it beats what we have now by light years.</p>
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		<title>By: sedonaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>sedonaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mickey G:

I agree with you, but it will not be possible as long as the people are willing to hurt themselves in order to hurt &quot;the rich&quot; even less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mickey G:</p>
<p>I agree with you, but it will not be possible as long as the people are willing to hurt themselves in order to hurt &#8220;the rich&#8221; even less.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly my dear I don&#039;t give a damn about whether we can do a mental flight of fancy to come up with a prebate check in Mexico.  I want a tax method that is simple, visible, and difficult to change.  I also would really like to see the IRS gutted!

The best contender out there is the Fair Tax.  Politicians hate it including lying about its content therefore it is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly my dear I don&#8217;t give a damn about whether we can do a mental flight of fancy to come up with a prebate check in Mexico.  I want a tax method that is simple, visible, and difficult to change.  I also would really like to see the IRS gutted!</p>
<p>The best contender out there is the Fair Tax.  Politicians hate it including lying about its content therefore it is good.</p>
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		<title>By: sedonaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>sedonaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Well, now that we&#039;re all in this together; there&#039;s no reason not to go for the Trifecta.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Didn&#039;t Pelosi et al just announce this yesterday?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Well, now that we&#8217;re all in this together; there&#8217;s no reason not to go for the Trifecta.</p></blockquote>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Pelosi et al just announce this yesterday?</p>
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		<title>By: sedonaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>sedonaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hvance:
Sedonaman,
&lt;blockquote&gt;(I&#039;m glad you mentioned incentives. What incentive is there to working when [rhetorical] you could move back to Mexico and live on the prebate?)
Damn good question. I would hope that you would have to be a U.S. citizen to receive a prebate abroad. I don&#039;t know the answer to that question.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I don&#039;t think there is an answer. How would you know where he&#039;s living? A person could live in Mexico [or some other country] while having his prebate check directly deposited in a US bank, and then write checks off the account or use a credit card with autopay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hvance:<br />
Sedonaman,</p>
<blockquote><p>(I&#8217;m glad you mentioned incentives. What incentive is there to working when [rhetorical] you could move back to Mexico and live on the prebate?)<br />
Damn good question. I would hope that you would have to be a U.S. citizen to receive a prebate abroad. I don&#8217;t know the answer to that question.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there is an answer. How would you know where he&#8217;s living? A person could live in Mexico [or some other country] while having his prebate check directly deposited in a US bank, and then write checks off the account or use a credit card with autopay.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Wavering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Wavering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hvance,

All we really have to do to completely understand where we are in this is to look at the health care debate. This has been going on for over a year. The President has held events particularly focused on this issue over thirty times. Each time Rasmussen or ABC takes a poll the numbers of people that support this legislation dwindle.

I Massachusetts a senate candidate made beating health care his number one issue and won a seat that had been held for 50 years by a universal health care champion.

As more and more is revealed about how this sausage is being made, the more vocal the American Public becomes. First it was reconciliation, now it&#039;s &#039;deem and pass&#039;. Even the democrats don&#039;t want to have to vote on this bill. All the indication you need to tell how heavy this lift has become is to realize that Barack Obama is going to grant an interview with Fox News this evening; a sign of the end times if there ever was one.

This is that &#039;first murder&#039; I was referencing. If the House &#039;deems&#039; this bill to have passed without an up or down vote, and the President signs it; what&#039;s to stop the Senate from saving their own skins and saying; &quot;We no longer need reconciliation. We have the bill we always liked.&quot;

The House goes crazy over the betrayal. Obama tells Reid they have to close the democratic ranks. The senate must prove to the House they are willing to take risk also. The only way to demonstrate this is for the Senate to thumb its nose at the American People as bluntly as the House just did. Say hello to the Senate using reconciliation to pass cap &amp; trade.

&quot;Well, now that we&#039;re all in this together; there&#039;s no reason not to go for the Trifecta. Let&#039;s pass amnesty. Let&#039;s ram it through both houses quickly enough to allow all 13 million newly minted citizens the ability to register 60 days before the election so they can vote. How grateful do you think 13 million people who just got permission to ride the entitlement train will be? This could be our only hope of keeping our jobs people.&quot;

You can&#039;t see this coming? They get away with this the first time; and by November there won&#039;t be much left to save. They&#039;ll have rewritten the contract between government and the American people. Goodbye republic; hello social democracy. You do know what a democracy is? Mob rule. Democracy is three wolves and a single sheep voting on what&#039;s for dinner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hvance,</p>
<p>All we really have to do to completely understand where we are in this is to look at the health care debate. This has been going on for over a year. The President has held events particularly focused on this issue over thirty times. Each time Rasmussen or ABC takes a poll the numbers of people that support this legislation dwindle.</p>
<p>I Massachusetts a senate candidate made beating health care his number one issue and won a seat that had been held for 50 years by a universal health care champion.</p>
<p>As more and more is revealed about how this sausage is being made, the more vocal the American Public becomes. First it was reconciliation, now it&#8217;s &#8216;deem and pass&#8217;. Even the democrats don&#8217;t want to have to vote on this bill. All the indication you need to tell how heavy this lift has become is to realize that Barack Obama is going to grant an interview with Fox News this evening; a sign of the end times if there ever was one.</p>
<p>This is that &#8216;first murder&#8217; I was referencing. If the House &#8216;deems&#8217; this bill to have passed without an up or down vote, and the President signs it; what&#8217;s to stop the Senate from saving their own skins and saying; &#8220;We no longer need reconciliation. We have the bill we always liked.&#8221;</p>
<p>The House goes crazy over the betrayal. Obama tells Reid they have to close the democratic ranks. The senate must prove to the House they are willing to take risk also. The only way to demonstrate this is for the Senate to thumb its nose at the American People as bluntly as the House just did. Say hello to the Senate using reconciliation to pass cap &amp; trade.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, now that we&#8217;re all in this together; there&#8217;s no reason not to go for the Trifecta. Let&#8217;s pass amnesty. Let&#8217;s ram it through both houses quickly enough to allow all 13 million newly minted citizens the ability to register 60 days before the election so they can vote. How grateful do you think 13 million people who just got permission to ride the entitlement train will be? This could be our only hope of keeping our jobs people.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t see this coming? They get away with this the first time; and by November there won&#8217;t be much left to save. They&#8217;ll have rewritten the contract between government and the American people. Goodbye republic; hello social democracy. You do know what a democracy is? Mob rule. Democracy is three wolves and a single sheep voting on what&#8217;s for dinner.</p>
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