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		<title>Comment on Susan G. Komen Charity Starts to Enter the 21st Century by Bill Wavering</title>
		<link>http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2012/02/06/susan-g-komen-charity-starts-to-enter-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-91309</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Wavering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span&gt;What else would you expect from an organization founded by a eugenicist &lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>What else would you expect from an organization founded by a eugenicist </span></p>
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		<title>Comment on 2012: Outing Establishment GOP As The Real Enemy by Bill Wavering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Wavering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span&gt;I&#8217;ve not called Romney a Communist; just a moderate. I don&#8217;t believe he has the stones to take on Obama. Not in the same way he went after Newt. I just see the establishment GOP ruining every candidate that gains any ground on their previously anointed one. Like a game of whack-a-mole they smack down anyone who begins to close on their boy. But Romney still never attracts more than a third of any primary vote. Lots of doubting Thomas&#8217; among primary voters. I think the establishment GOP hopes we&#8217;ll just eventually be satisfied with Brand X.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span&gt;Saying that a Romney administration would be more conservative than an Obama administration isn&#8217;t saying much. Mitt could have a 180 degree turn from the Obama administration if he just respects the US Constitution.&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>I&rsquo;ve not called Romney a Communist; just a moderate. I don&rsquo;t believe he has the stones to take on Obama. Not in the same way he went after Newt. I just see the establishment GOP ruining every candidate that gains any ground on their previously anointed one. Like a game of whack-a-mole they smack down anyone who begins to close on their boy. But Romney still never attracts more than a third of any primary vote. Lots of doubting Thomas&rsquo; among primary voters. I think the establishment GOP hopes we&rsquo;ll just eventually be satisfied with Brand X.</span><br />
<span>Saying that a Romney administration would be more conservative than an Obama administration isn&rsquo;t saying much. Mitt could have a 180 degree turn from the Obama administration if he just respects the US Constitution.</span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Occupying the Lunatic Fringe by Bill Wavering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Wavering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span&gt;I remember history teaching that the Romans persecuted Christians. Until the emperor&#8217;s conversion. In the Middle Ages, the Church had &#8217;dibs&#8217; on most of the educated men. Should they have been involved in government; of course not. And the Church eventually got their comeuppance for interference.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span&gt;Surly you&#8217;re not saying that the Church&#8217;s foray into government in the Dark Ages makes progressives&#8217; deliberate twisting of scripture correct today &lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>I remember history teaching that the Romans persecuted Christians. Until the emperor&rsquo;s conversion. In the Middle Ages, the Church had &rsquo;dibs&rsquo; on most of the educated men. Should they have been involved in government; of course not. And the Church eventually got their comeuppance for interference.</span><br />
<span>Surly you&rsquo;re not saying that the Church&rsquo;s foray into government in the Dark Ages makes progressives&rsquo; deliberate twisting of scripture correct today </span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Reagan’s Enduring, And Silly, 11th Commandment by Gestell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gestell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 22:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always happy to read conservatives who would rather be ideologically pure than win office. May your numbers increase! And--if you don&#039;t win office, you won&#039;t have to make any real decisions and be judged accordingly. So just keep on whining--your side is so good at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m always happy to read conservatives who would rather be ideologically pure than win office. May your numbers increase! And&#8211;if you don&#039;t win office, you won&#039;t have to make any real decisions and be judged accordingly. So just keep on whining&#8211;your side is so good at it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Case of Dr. Chadwick and Useless and Expensive Regulations Gone Too Far! by Gestell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gestell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Phil, you&#039;re plainly not much of a conservative. You write: &lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&quot;Granted if there is an outbreak of some kind of goofy disease, we want the government out there protecting us.&quot; Don&#039;t you know that the private sector will do this for those who can afford it? What kind of a conservative are you anyway?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Phil, you&#039;re plainly not much of a conservative. You write: <font size="2">&quot;Granted if there is an outbreak of some kind of goofy disease, we want the government out there protecting us.&quot; Don&#039;t you know that the private sector will do this for those who can afford it? What kind of a conservative are you anyway?<br />
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		<title>Comment on Occupying the Lunatic Fringe by Gestell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gestell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, Bill, and that&#039;s why the Church--later to become the Roman Catholic church--threw in its lot with the Roman Empire and spent the Middle Ages trying to provide political order in Western Europe. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, Bill, and that&#039;s why the Church&#8211;later to become the Roman Catholic church&#8211;threw in its lot with the Roman Empire and spent the Middle Ages trying to provide political order in Western Europe.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2012: Outing Establishment GOP As The Real Enemy by Gestell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gestell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I often say, A Romney administration will be a whole lot more conservative than an Obama administration, But I&#039;m happy to encourage conservatives to slice and dice each other in an effort to prove who&#039;s the purest of them all. Ideological purity is clearly more important to many conservatives than actually governing. That&#039;s because ideological purity just feeeeels so damn good--just makes your legs twitch and tingle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I often say, A Romney administration will be a whole lot more conservative than an Obama administration, But I&#039;m happy to encourage conservatives to slice and dice each other in an effort to prove who&#039;s the purest of them all. Ideological purity is clearly more important to many conservatives than actually governing. That&#039;s because ideological purity just feeeeels so damn good&#8211;just makes your legs twitch and tingle.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2012: Outing Establishment GOP As The Real Enemy by Ivan Ivanovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan Ivanovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span&gt;Yes Bill; Succession is an OK idea, but I have to disagree with you on the Romney thing. Call me establishment if you like and if you believe Barry Goldwater was establishment. Much of your screed is true, but no one is calling Romney a Commie as I do Obama.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span&gt;The Tea Party? I don&#039;t know. I was very interested in the Tea Party until I saw an article condemning the Methodist Church for some garbage regarding queers. I ain&#8217;t no Methodist or queer&#160;and in fact I&#8217;m quite anti-dogma, but a believer none the less. I replied to the article saying I believe in the Constitution and it&#8217;s separation of church and state and I was kicked out of the Tea Party web site. So I&#8217;m not so hot on them anymore. Besides who ya gonna vote for? Or are ya just bitchin? We don&#8217;t know what Romney will do, but then we didn&#8217;t know what Reagan would do either, before we elected him. And besides he wasn&#8217;t perfect. The choice is clear to me. I&#8217;ll vote for any one of the remain four, but I like Mitt the best.&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>Yes Bill; Succession is an OK idea, but I have to disagree with you on the Romney thing. Call me establishment if you like and if you believe Barry Goldwater was establishment. Much of your screed is true, but no one is calling Romney a Commie as I do Obama.</span><br />
<span>The Tea Party? I don&#039;t know. I was very interested in the Tea Party until I saw an article condemning the Methodist Church for some garbage regarding queers. I ain&rsquo;t no Methodist or queer&nbsp;and in fact I&rsquo;m quite anti-dogma, but a believer none the less. I replied to the article saying I believe in the Constitution and it&rsquo;s separation of church and state and I was kicked out of the Tea Party web site. So I&rsquo;m not so hot on them anymore. Besides who ya gonna vote for? Or are ya just bitchin? We don&rsquo;t know what Romney will do, but then we didn&rsquo;t know what Reagan would do either, before we elected him. And besides he wasn&rsquo;t perfect. The choice is clear to me. I&rsquo;ll vote for any one of the remain four, but I like Mitt the best.</span></p>
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		<title>Comment on 2012: Outing Establishment GOP As The Real Enemy by Bill Wavering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Wavering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot; face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;The entire issue here amongst the GOP is the Establishment Republicans versus the T.E.A. Party Conservatives.&lt;/font&gt;
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&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot; face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;The Establishment Republican Party doesn&#8217;t believe they can defeat Obama in 2012; and more importantly, they are correct. The Establishment Republican Party has always had this merry-go-round of candidates. This time, according to them it is Mitt Romney&#8217;s turn. Mitt Romney could not beat last cycle&#8217;s sacrificial lamb John McCain. Romney has been campaigning for five years, and he cannot close the gap. &lt;/font&gt;
&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot; face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&#160;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot; face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;Each and every non establishment republican candidate has been destroyed or rendered impotent by&#8230;establishment republicans. It is almost as if the GOP has decided that the ideological war is over. They seem to be of the opinion that the liberal welfare state model of big government has won the day. They are now only interested in &#8216;winning&#8217; the levers of power in Washington. Talk to them. They don&#8217;t believe in Romney&#8217;s ability to beat Obama as much as they believe that Romney will set a tone in the campaign that will retain the House and win them a Senate majority. It&#8217;s as if they&#8217;ve already ceded the battle and are now saying; &#8220;Elect us because we can oversee the liberal welfare state better than they can.&#8221;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot; face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&#160;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot; face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;The establishment GOP believes Romney to have a message of moderation that will resonate with independents. They have miscalculated here. Independents are searching for candidates with solutions, not platitudes. Romney has no solutions. In fact; the only major difference between Romney and Obama is race. In almost every policy area, Romney has, at one time or another, backed the same policy decisions that Obama has executed. So; even if he is elected, little changes. The battle has shifted from one between the ideologies to one between the &#8216;rulers&#8217; and the people.&lt;/font&gt;
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&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot; face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;Never forget that the overriding purpose of the state is the perpetuation of the state. Why do you think so little attention is currently being paid to the US Constitution? The Constitution is a peoples&#8217; document not a rulers&#8217; document. Washington has little use for it other than to buttress their continued argument for control.&lt;/font&gt;
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&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;Succession anyone? &lt;span&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">The entire issue here amongst the GOP is the Establishment Republicans versus the T.E.A. Party Conservatives.</font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;</font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">The Establishment Republican Party doesn&rsquo;t believe they can defeat Obama in 2012; and more importantly, they are correct. The Establishment Republican Party has always had this merry-go-round of candidates. This time, according to them it is Mitt Romney&rsquo;s turn. Mitt Romney could not beat last cycle&rsquo;s sacrificial lamb John McCain. Romney has been campaigning for five years, and he cannot close the gap. </font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;</font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">Each and every non establishment republican candidate has been destroyed or rendered impotent by&hellip;establishment republicans. It is almost as if the GOP has decided that the ideological war is over. They seem to be of the opinion that the liberal welfare state model of big government has won the day. They are now only interested in &lsquo;winning&rsquo; the levers of power in Washington. Talk to them. They don&rsquo;t believe in Romney&rsquo;s ability to beat Obama as much as they believe that Romney will set a tone in the campaign that will retain the House and win them a Senate majority. It&rsquo;s as if they&rsquo;ve already ceded the battle and are now saying; &ldquo;Elect us because we can oversee the liberal welfare state better than they can.&rdquo;</font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;</font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">The establishment GOP believes Romney to have a message of moderation that will resonate with independents. They have miscalculated here. Independents are searching for candidates with solutions, not platitudes. Romney has no solutions. In fact; the only major difference between Romney and Obama is race. In almost every policy area, Romney has, at one time or another, backed the same policy decisions that Obama has executed. So; even if he is elected, little changes. The battle has shifted from one between the ideologies to one between the &lsquo;rulers&rsquo; and the people.</font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;</font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">Never forget that the overriding purpose of the state is the perpetuation of the state. Why do you think so little attention is currently being paid to the US Constitution? The Constitution is a peoples&rsquo; document not a rulers&rsquo; document. Washington has little use for it other than to buttress their continued argument for control.</font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;</font><br />
<font size="3"></font><font color="#000000"></font><font face="Times New Roman">Succession anyone? <span>&nbsp;</span></font></p>
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		<title>Comment on Occupying the Lunatic Fringe by Bill Wavering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Wavering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot; face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;First of all, for my money, the argument isn&#8217;t about government authority versus religious authority. The battle is between government power and religious authority. Government has no &#8216;authority&#8217; other than that granted by the people to the government. God suffers under no such pretense.&lt;/font&gt;
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&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot; face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;Two points that the OWS Crowd in general, and progressives in general, ignore when trying to square their demands with biblical passage.&lt;/font&gt;
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&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot; face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;First; there is a fundamental chasm between progressivism and Christianity. Progressivism concentrates on the elevation of groups; particularly the victim group Du Jour. Christianity, on the other hand, concentrates on the individual. Christianity is not interested in any other issue other than mapping the path to personal salvation. Progressivism is interested only in &#8216;social justice&#8217; which is their personal interpretation of who should &#8216;have&#8217; and who should sacrifice based upon their arbitration.&lt;/font&gt;
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&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot; face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;Second; as the author points out Christ wasn&#8217;t interested in government intervention, he was interested in personal intervention. The passage from Mark 12:17 says; &#8220;Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar&#8217;s and unto God that which is God&#8217;s&#8221; is one of the most often misconstrued passages in Scripture. This is also a personal admonition. The Savior says, in essence; &#8220;Government will do what government does. And it matters not to God.&#8221;&lt;/font&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#039;times new roman&#039;;font-size: 12pt&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;The Savior maps the pathway to personal salvation through charity and good works; and neither comes from the force of government. A handout from the government counts as nothing in God&#8217;s eyes. It is the hand up that personal charity provides to &lt;span&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;the stranger, the disenfranchised, the sick, and the dispirited that matter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">First of all, for my money, the argument isn&rsquo;t about government authority versus religious authority. The battle is between government power and religious authority. Government has no &lsquo;authority&rsquo; other than that granted by the people to the government. God suffers under no such pretense.</font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;</font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">Two points that the OWS Crowd in general, and progressives in general, ignore when trying to square their demands with biblical passage.</font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;</font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">First; there is a fundamental chasm between progressivism and Christianity. Progressivism concentrates on the elevation of groups; particularly the victim group Du Jour. Christianity, on the other hand, concentrates on the individual. Christianity is not interested in any other issue other than mapping the path to personal salvation. Progressivism is interested only in &lsquo;social justice&rsquo; which is their personal interpretation of who should &lsquo;have&rsquo; and who should sacrifice based upon their arbitration.</font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;</font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">Second; as the author points out Christ wasn&rsquo;t interested in government intervention, he was interested in personal intervention. The passage from Mark 12:17 says; &ldquo;Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar&rsquo;s and unto God that which is God&rsquo;s&rdquo; is one of the most often misconstrued passages in Scripture. This is also a personal admonition. The Savior says, in essence; &ldquo;Government will do what government does. And it matters not to God.&rdquo;</font><br />
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">&nbsp;</font><br />
<span style="font-family: 'times new roman';font-size: 12pt"><font color="#000000">The Savior maps the pathway to personal salvation through charity and good works; and neither comes from the force of government. A handout from the government counts as nothing in God&rsquo;s eyes. It is the hand up that personal charity provides to <span>&nbsp;</span>the stranger, the disenfranchised, the sick, and the dispirited that matter</font></span></p>
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